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E3ZR-6394-AA T-5 bellhousing

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  • Start date Start date Aug 16, 2008

Mustang5L5

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Just got back from Fun Ford Weekend. Picked up a T-5 bellhousing for $15.

Got home, degreased it and got it all looking new again..then noticed the part number

E3ZR-6394-AA


That would mean it's an 83-85 t-5 bellhousing. I know 86+ Mustangs have an E6ZR bellhousing.

Can I still use it? It looks like a normal T-5 bell to me. Any major differences? Or will i be Ebaying this bad boy?



EDIT: Update Feb '21

Drivetrain - T5 bellhousing differences: 83-85 vs 86-93

The is more of a general FYI. I don't want to issue a blanket statement based on testing between only 2 samples. Since I had an 83-85 bell and 86-93 bell, I decided to see what the differences were. There was a lot of statements about the early bells being smaller, or then being the same...
www.stangnet.com
 
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LiquidGT

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Yep its an '83 bellhousing for the smaller clutch/flywheel. I had a lead on a T5/bellhousing one time, then I found out it was a non WC-T5 and a E3ZR bell.
 

Mustang5L5

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Shoot, so i can't use it with a 10.5" clutch right?

Guess it's Ebay time
 
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MaxTheHooker

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just grind up the bell housing.
 

Mustang5L5

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Not sure i want to do that
 

Black1987Stang

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I have a foxbody bellhousing and clutch fork that came off my 87....email sent....
 
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You still got the bell housing and clutch fork from the foxbody?
 
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ModernDriveline

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Hey Gang,

The 83-85 bellhousing are the same as the 86-93 bellhousing. You can use the same 157 tooth flywheel. You can use a 10" or 10.4" clutch with no problem with contact the bellhousing. - Bruce MDL
 

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do you still need a bellhousing?
 

Mustang5L5

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Nope. I got an E6 bellhousing a while back and am currently driving the car. Prob solved
 

Mustang5L5

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Bumping this thread.

My car is converted to 5-spd, and I used an E6 bellhousing.

But i still have the E3 bellhousing I want to toss on CL. Are these things worthless? Is there really a difference in the E3 vs E6 bellhousing considering they use the same flywheel?

I want to sell it, but i don't want to screw anyone over by selling them a "paperweight" either

NO PM's about it either please
 
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So a e6 is the bellhousing for a 87 5.0 man t-5 because i was at the bone yard and i did see the e3 but told him i had to check at hime first. This will save me from getting under the car for today.
 
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Stella66

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Hi guys
I am converting my automatic (c4) 66 mustang that has a 1985- 302 engine to manual.. I just scooped up a T5 wc off a 1999 mustang.. but I noticed the new separator plate doesn't line up with its bellhousing..reading ur advice to mustang5L5..If I now get a bellhousing off a 1983-93 mustang I should be ok to connect the 1985 engine to the 1999 T5 tranny? Also the 1999 T5 has an electrical speedometer connector.. I assume I can remove the electrical connector and install the mechanical one?
 

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Stella66 said:
Hi guys
I am converting my automatic (c4) 66 mustang that has a 1985- 302 engine to manual.. I just scooped up a T5 wc off a 1999 mustang.. but I noticed the new separator plate doesn't line up with its bellhousing..reading ur advice to mustang5L5..If I now get a bellhousing off a 1983-93 mustang I should be ok to connect the 1985 engine to the 1999 T5 tranny? Also the 1999 T5 has an electrical speedometer connector.. I assume I can remove the electrical connector and install the mechanical one?
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The 94-04 Mustang T5's use a longer input shaft. As a result, the V8 bellhousing (which is 94-95 302 as the 3.8L bellhousing won't work) is slightly deeper to account for this.

So you have two options. Either use a 94-95 V8 bellhousing, which pushes the trans back 3/4", or find an 83-93 bellhousing, and swap the input shaft and bearing retainer on the T5 over to a 90-93 input shaft.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
The 94-04 Mustang T5's use a longer input shaft. As a result, the V8 bellhousing (which is 94-95 302 as the 3.8L bellhousing won't work) is slightly deeper to account for this.

So you have two options. Either use a 94-95 V8 bellhousing, which pushes the trans back 3/4", or find an 83-93 bellhousing, and swap the input shaft and bearing retainer on the T5 over to a 90-93 input shaft.
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Thank you
Now for the electronic speedometer sensor on the 1999 T5... would I be able to convert that to mechanical
 

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That’s a little tougher to do. In 1999, Ford went with a true electric speedometer that uses a tone ring on the shaft, and a VR sensor. It’s essentially the same setup as an ABS ring abs sensor.

to convert to mechanical, you’ll need to use a fox style tail shaft on the trans, and do some slight machining on the mainshaft. You’ll have to cut a groove, or drill a hole for the clip that secures the speedo driven gear on the mainshaft.
 
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Oh man... ok so would u say that a

Speedometer Pulse Generator could be an option to convert the electrical T5 trans to mechanical 66 mustang speedometer ..if so would you know the specs of what to get? I saw this in my research.. but I hv no clue if I'm on the right path:​

Speedometer 8K Pulse Generator From Dakota Digital.​

Thank you ur efforts to school me on this
 

Mustang5L5

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Unfortunately I am not familiar with that product. You may want to contact Dakota Digital and ask them if it can be used on the 99 trans to create a mechanical output.
 
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