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jivepepper

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propellerhead said:
Even if you put a warning light for a fault. If your e-pump dies in the middle of nowhere, and your fault light blinks at you, you're still gonna have to call a tow truck.
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Not if you carry the old one with you and a big heavy set of tools. LOL
 

blumi00GT

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You might want to consider this old thread also, where I collected some cons of an electric water pump:
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=505625

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300bhp/ton

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hotmustang331 said:
You think im going to be barreling down the highway @ 148 for 35miles on my way to work? I held it long enough to get there...which was also long enough to waste the GT I was racing . So your saying that the vette guy could only sustain 145MPH or thats all he could get to before it overheated?
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something like that, but that's what the Silverstate run is all about.

It's on public roads which are closed for the event, you have to sustain an average speed over the entire course. I think the lowest category is 120mph average. But of course there's places on the road where you have to run slower, so you'll need to make the time up in other areas. I think the top honours is for a 'slightly' modded 900bhp Corvette and they average over 200mph over the entire distance.

But if you're on a circuit with a PEAKY cam setup, you will probably spend most of your time above 4500rpm in 2nd and 3rd mostly with a few trips into 4th gear.
 
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MustangLife

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The meziere electric water pump was designed for daily driver in mind. The pumps life is 3,000 hours and is warrantied. I know plenty of people who have been running this pump with no problems some in the 2 to 3 year range. Just my 2 cents.

People who here the word electric are scared for some reason. This is also the same reaction that came when electric fuel pumps came out, you had the close minded people say mechanical is better I will never use a electric fuel pump. Now look all cars are using electric fuel pumps now.

Just my 2 cents.

Josh
 

propellerhead

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MustangLife said:
The meziere electric water pump was designed for daily driver in mind. The pumps life is 3,000 hours and is warrantied. I know plenty of people who have been running this pump with no problems some in the 2 to 3 year range. Just my 2 cents.

People who here the word electric are scared for some reason. This is also the same reaction that came when electric fuel pumps came out, you had the close minded people say mechanical is better I will never use a electric fuel pump. Now look all cars are using electric fuel pumps now.

Just my 2 cents.

Josh
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I think the issue is not so much the reliability of the electric water pump but more of the consequences of a failure. If an electric fuel pump dies, your car quits. If a serpentine belt breaks, lights come on and you'll know immediately. If an electric water pump dies, your car goes on without warning until it overheats.
 

300bhp/ton

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propellerhead said:
I think the issue is not so much the reliability of the electric water pump but more of the consequences of a failure. If an electric fuel pump dies, your car quits. If a serpentine belt breaks, lights come on and you'll know immediately. If an electric water pump dies, your car goes on without warning until it overheats.
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sorry man but thats just BULL! :Total-CP: :Total-CP:

The Mustang has a temperature gage does it not, plus a coolant warning light if it exceeds a particular temperature.

If you had a hose burst (which is fairly common on all cars) you would have no extra warning.

Yes if the entire belt broke you'd probably notice other things, such as the tacho would probably stop working (has a pulse feed from the alternator). But the battery would certainly run the car long enough to over heat it.

I had an alternator failure on my Discovery will on compeition (night navigation course on & off road), I drove for 3 hours over roads and off road sections at night with the lights and stereo on. The battery only went flat once I got home.
 

propellerhead

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300bhp/ton said:
sorry man but thats just BULL! :Total-CP: :Total-CP:

The Mustang has a temperature gage does it not, plus a coolant warning light if it exceeds a particular temperature.

If you had a hose burst (which is fairly common on all cars) you would have no extra warning.

Yes if the entire belt broke you'd probably notice other things, such as the tacho would probably stop working (has a pulse feed from the alternator). But the battery would certainly run the car long enough to over heat it.

I had an alternator failure on my Discovery will on compeition (night navigation course on & off road), I drove for 3 hours over roads and off road sections at night with the lights and stereo on. The battery only went flat once I got home.
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I have a daily driver and I'm not willing to deal with the risks and consequences for the gains it advertises. If my car was a track car, then I'd seriously consider it. If you have enough confidence in the electric water pump, that's your call. You seem to know it all. Go for it! More power to you. The whole world is behind you!
 
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rpburnette

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If you are able and willing to modify your car and you don't notice if your car is overheating, than you need to sell your car, turn in your drivers license and start riding the bus.

I was driving my Dad's 1997 Crown Vic down I-95 going about 75-80mph and I had been driving for about 1.5 hours when the car started to overheat. About 2 minutes later, the plastic crossover on the intake cracked. I luckily was approaching an exit ramp and coasted to a gas station right off the exit ramp. The car overheated and it was obvious when it did. The intake cracked and I was still able to coast about 0.5 miles before I stopped and the engine is fine, besides the intake of course.

Point of story, if either type of water pump fails, you will certainly notice before real damage occurs to your engine. If you don't notice see the first paragraph.
 

4.6flash

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hotmustang331 said:
I cant say if I reccomend it because of the fact that it MAY just decide to quit on you lol and you have to constantly worry about overheating and are always checking the temp gauge.
The power gain is definatly noticable I can say that, and its easy as heck to instal....mine has been on for about a year and 0 problems so far.
So the check engine light will come on if it starts overheating?
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What kind of gas mileage increase have you noticed?
I imagine that the decreased load has boosted your mileage.
 

hotmustang331

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^cant really say....but i got 27MPG on the way to georgia AFTER the cams, and BEFORE the tune...So I think thats pretty good. Im guessing it MAYBE gave 1MPG...but its a good excuse to buy one...."it boosts gas milage" . Point is that it WILL increase milage though.
 

hotmustang331

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300bhp/ton said:
sorry man but thats just BULL! :Total-CP: :Total-CP:

The Mustang has a temperature gage does it not, plus a coolant warning light if it exceeds a particular temperature.

If you had a hose burst (which is fairly common on all cars) you would have no extra warning.

Yes if the entire belt broke you'd probably notice other things, such as the tacho would probably stop working (has a pulse feed from the alternator). But the battery would certainly run the car long enough to over heat it.

I had an alternator failure on my Discovery will on compeition (night navigation course on & off road), I drove for 3 hours over roads and off road sections at night with the lights and stereo on. The battery only went flat once I got home.
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Please expand on this 300, as I was going to remove my belt at the track to see what it does for power (an electric WP does have its advantages )...but if my tach doesnt work, then I cant do it. Thanks man.
 
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Stangdriver1119

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Do you still use the same stock belt after the electric water pump install?
 
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