Electrical Mess

l2ol33rt

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Where to begin...Well lets start with my setup: battery relocated to the hatch, positive wire running from the battery to the front of the car(1 gauge wire), negative side of the battery grounded to the frame in the rear(4 gauge wire), block is grounded to frame(2 gauge wire), 3g alternator 160amp w/ wiring upgraded(inline fuse) and harness from fordfuelinjection.com. Ok so i just installed my 3g alternator a few days ago and everything seemed great. Well i was driving on the freeway last night and all of a sudden my car died and everything electrical went out. I was able to pull onto the right side of the road and see waht was the matter. Well the 4 gauge wire that ran from the neg. side of the battery to the frame was smoking and hot as hell. i got it towed home and looked at it today. the battery was tested and checks out fine, i tried replacing the ground that fried with one side of jumper cables just to see if i could start the car and nothing happened not even the dome light turned on. What do i look to diagnose first? What went wrong? Sorry if this seems like a noob question but im new to this whole seen.

Thanks,
Robert
 
Electrical problems are difficult for most people to understand . It is even more
difficult to do them when you can't lay hands on the problem. There aren't but
about 6 people in all of Stangnet who will attempt to troubleshoot electrical
problems over the Internet.

Having said that, I would pull the alternator and have it checked. I hope you
have a suitable fuse in the 4 gauge alternator power feed wire.

Also check to see that your positive cable from the battery to the starter solenoid
didn't short out to the body somewhere along the length of it.

Once you get the problems fixed, here are some more suggestions.

Rear mounted battery ground wiring. Follow this plan and
you will have zero ground problems.


One 1 gauge or 1/0 gauge wire from battery negative post
to a clean shiny spot on the chassis near the battery. Use
a 5/16” bolt and bolt it down to make the rear ground.
Use a 1 gauge or 1/0 gauge wire from the rear ground
bolt to a clean shiny spot on the block.

One 4 gauge wire from the block where you connected
the battery ground wire to the chassis ground where the
battery was mounted up front. Use a 5/16” bolt and bolt
down the 4 gauge engine to chassis ground, make sure
that it the metal around the bolt is clean & shiny. This
is the alternator power ground.

The computer has a dedicated power ground wire with
a cylindrical quick connect (about 2 ½”long by 1” diameter.
It comes out of the wiring harness near the ignition coil &
starter solenoid (or relay). Be sure to bolt it to the chassis
ground in the same place as you bolted the alternator power
ground. This is an absolute don’t overlook it item for EFI cars

Picture courtesy of timewarped1972
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Crimp or even better, solder the lugs on the all the wire.
The local auto stereo shop will have them if the auto parts
store doesn't. Use some heat shrink tubing to cover the lugs
and make things look nice.

For a battery cut off switch, see http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=42225
is the switch http://www.moroso.com/catalog/images/74102_inst.pdf is the installation instructions.
Use the super duty switch and the following tech note to wire it and you will
be good to go.

Use the Moroso plan for the alternator wiring and you risk a fire. The 10
gauge wire they recommend is even less adequate that the stock Mustang
wiring.

There is a solution, but it will require about 40' of 18 gauge green wire.

Wire the battery to the two 1/4" posts as shown in the diagram.

The alternator requires a different approach. On the small alternator plug
there is a green wire. It is the sense lead that turns the regulator on when
the ignition switch is in the run position. Cut the green wire and solder the 40'
of green wire between the two pieces. Use some heat shrink to cover the
splices. See http://fordfuelinjection.com/?p=7 for some excellent
help on soldering & using heat shrink tubing.

Run the green wire back to the Moroso switch and cut off the excess wire.
Try to run the green wire inside the car and protect it from getting cut or
chaffed. Crimp a 18 gauge ring terminal (red is 18 gauge color code for the crimp
on terminals) on each wire. Bolt one ring terminal to each of the 3/16" studs.
Do not add the jumper between the 1/4" stud and the 3/16" stud as shown it the
Moroso diagram.

How it works:
The green wire is the ignition on sense feed to the regulator. It supplies power
to the regulator when the ignition switch is in the run position. Turn the
Moroso switch to off, and the sense voltage goes away, the voltage
regulator shuts off and the alternator quits making power.

See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) &
Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-90 wiring and lots more…

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss and Stang&2birds.
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