engine pic ID - W or C ??

'68StangGT

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Windsor or Cleveland ?

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one person told me its a Windsor

I'd just like confirmation and thought you guys could tell me for sure

thanks in advance

 

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Windsor

 

'68StangGT

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easy enough

thanks

 

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Looks like a 302 to me...

am I crazy? Maybe it's an optical illusion, but the intake looks too narrow for a 351W.

 

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Is there something I can check to find out for sure .... that would make a difference, for sure

 

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[QUOTE='68StangGT]Is there something I can check to find out for sure .... that would make a difference, for sure[/QUOTE]

If the outermost bolt on the timing chain cover next to the water passageways is flush with the deck of the block (where the head bolts on) then it is a 302/289. If there is an inch or so of space to the deck then its a 351.

Definately not a C based on the waterneck housing.

I almost think that this engine is a 289/302 because I don't think the valve covers are close enough to the shock towers to be a 351w. But my perception could be all screwed up casue I have tall valve covers.

 

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holy cow

ok thanks again for the info

If I go this weekend to check out the car, I'll take and post more pics, then maybe I can get more help on the subject

its SUPPOSED to be a 70 Vert "H" Code, which should be a 351 2bbl

VIN is 0F03H104041

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67coupe351w

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there may be more room between a 70's shock towers. I dont really know. I thought you were refering to a '68 because of your name. If thats the case my whole valve cover theory is useless...but the other part is still valid.

 

'68StangGT

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ooops

sorry about that

68 GT was my FIRST car

 

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Oil filter on a 302 is also right inbetween the head and the bottom of the block. The 351 will be offset by about an inch.
Kevin

 

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H code could be a W or C but that looks likes a Windsor to me. Whatever it is, that is most likely NOT the original air cleaner that came on the car. The 351W 4 barrel was dropped in 1970. The Cleveland could be had 2V or 4v. The Windsor was only ofered in 2v. It could have been a leftover engine that was put in there though. Penny for your thoughts.

 

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the air cleaner base is definitely a 70 part due to the location of the breather tube, on a 69 it would be in the front instead of on the side. so either the air cleaner top was changed for a 69 windsor piece or a 70 cleveland piece, or most likely the sticker was changed.

another way to identify if it is a 351 windsor or a 289-302 is to check and see if there is an angled piece of webbing on the block above the timing cover on the driver side of the block.

 

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I always thought 70up Stangs were Cleveland and the Windsors were saved for LTDs, Mercurys, and such.
Probably wrong, but thought I would throw that out.
Good luck
Dave

 

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ratio411 said:

I always thought 70up Stangs were Cleveland and the Windsors were saved for LTDs, Mercurys, and such.
Probably wrong, but thought I would throw that out.
Good luck
Dave

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351w, like said above, were only offer in a 2v version for 70.


the intake in the picture looks aftermarket. someone has just slapped on a sticker.

 

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ratio411 said:

I always thought 70up Stangs were Cleveland and the Windsors were saved for LTDs, Mercurys, and such.
Probably wrong, but thought I would throw that out.
Good luck
Dave

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I've owned 2 70 windsor 2bbl's, the ragtop I have now and a mach 1 I bought in 72. the mach was kind of odd, it had the windsor 2bbl with a shaker and a 3 speed standard. I think the original owner was on drugs

 

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Another odd thing about that car, both the 70's I've had were a crossflow radiator, the 69's were a downflow like that one. has anyone else had a 70 with a downflow?

 

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my 70 cougar was a downflow. i don't think the crossflow rads started until 71

 

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I went over today to check out the car in person, and someone else put a deposit on it ....

Man, I'm a day later or a dollar short ... AGAIN