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factory tach....way off?

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fiveoho

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how inacurate is the factory tach on our cars? compared to like a autometer.
 

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I have heard many stories about how far off our tacs can be. But i have never noticed it being off. I verify it with my autometer shift light which lights up the moment my Tac hits 6,000rpm. And with my Tweecer data logs showing me shifting at like 6,100 or so but hey im sure it revs for a second while i react to the shift light. All in all i would say its right on.
 

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WhiteDevil said:
I have heard many stories about how far off our tacs can be. But i have never noticed it being off. I verify it with my autometer shift light which lights up the moment my Tac hits 6,000rpm. And with my Tweecer data logs showing me shifting at like 6,100 or so but hey im sure it revs for a second while i react to the shift light. All in all i would say its right on.
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i will just use the factory one if it is that close. i was just going to do similar to what u are doing and throw a summit shift light on there for $36. think that will work?


-im assuming you can adjust a shift light in 100rpm increments, not 1000. the summit light requires no pills

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I have an older autometer light. It uses pills but they are in 100rpm increments.
 

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Many of them get old and tired. Mine was fine until 4 years ago, then it slowly started losing accuracy. Now the thing is crazy.... it'll spin around and get stuck under the peg for no reason. I should have unhooked it when I put the Autometer in. Might put that on my to-do list.
 

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so if its acting normal, its probably really close
 

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That's the issue - they are not super reliable across the board (it's hit or miss if the tach in a given car will be right-on). If you have a friend with a known accurate tach, hook it up and use it for a day and see if the stocker stays in concert with the the aftermarket gauge. Remember that tachs tend to be off by percentages.

Good luck.
 

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Or just go dyno your car. That's how I found out about my tach.
 

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HISSIN50 said:
That's the issue - they are not super reliable across the board (it's hit or miss if the tach in a given car will be right-on). If you have a friend with a known accurate tach, hook it up and use it for a day and see if the stocker stays in concert with the the aftermarket gauge. Remember that tachs tend to be off by percentages.

Good luck.
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good advice. thanks man
 

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Mine reads about 300 too high

I've seen all kinds of reports in the range of 200 to 800 off

btw ... they have been on the high side

Wonder if Ford did it that way on purpose?

Grady
 

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Or just go dyno your car. That's how I found out about my tach.
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lol. expensive way to find out if my tach is off



i would like to dyno tho. by the way, care to list your mods and how much power you put down?
 

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Mine reads about 300 too high

I've seen all kinds of reports in the range of 200 to 800 off

btw ... they have been on the high side

Wonder if Ford did it that way on purpose?

Grady
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so if its reading higher than its actually turning....thats a good thing

all the ones you seen that were off read higher?
 

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fiveoho said:
lol. expensive way to find out if my tach is off



i would like to dyno tho. by the way, care to list your mods and how much power you put down?
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Not expensive if you are planning to dyno the car anyway. It's a free bonus.


94 Mustang GT AODE, 3,000 Street Edge Converter, TransGo shift kit, 3.73s, Cobra Intake, 75mm pro-m M/A, 24lbers, 65mm TB, MagnaFlow mufflers, O/R h-pipe, performance chip, Eibach drag springs, 255lph fuel pump, Mac pullies

ET's from 2006:
14.07 @ 96.86
12.79 @ 107.14 - 125 shot of Zex

2005 Dynojet- http://www.100mphclub.com/community/album_pic.php?pic_id=185
Had a heck of a time with the dyno and the stall. If you'll note the runs, we ran it 11 times! Club dyno days come in handy.

2004 Mustang Dyno N/A stock stall - http://www.100mphclub.com/community/album_pic.php?pic_id=180

2004 Mustang Dyno 125 shot and stock stall - http://www.100mphclub.com/community/album_pic.php?pic_id=181

Example of what happens when the car downshifts. LOL
http://www.100mphclub.com/community/album_pic.php?pic_id=182

My engine was noticeably loosing compression (worn rings) in 2005. They are REALLY worn now. Car still starts and drives good. Just a dog at WOT.

Edit: Oh and my stock tach read LOW....
 

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fiveoho said:
so if its reading higher than its actually turning....thats a good thing

all the ones you seen that were off read higher?
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I guess from Ford's point of view ...............

What the customer don't know ..........
can only be beneficial to them

When I wanna go to the limit .......
I just usually shift at 6500 ... or there abouts

It being off don't cause me any lack of sleep at night
cause
I know what is what

Now ... My wife sets her SUV clock 10 mins fast
that way
According to her ... she won't be late

I'd never be able to forget about it being wrong

anyway

Yeah all the peeps I've seen on these boards said .......
theirs was too high somewhere in that range

Grady
 

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nice set up man

just for clarification...when u ran a 14.07, is that when you made 271whp or 200whp
 

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fiveoho said:
nice set up man

just for clarification...when u ran a 14.07, is that when you made 271whp or 200whp
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Actually I edited my post. ET's are from 2006. My car club has a yearly "Fastest List" You have to run your time THAT year. Some guys have gone slower, but that's the way it goes.

I really think the only thing that kept my times fairly consistent were the spring, shocks, and converter upgrades. My engine kept losing power, and I kept adding other mods to keep it hanging in there.

I'm finally working on the engine now.
 

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gcomfx.com said:
Actually I edited my post. ET's are from 2006. My car club has a yearly "Fastest List" You have to run your time THAT year. Some guys have gone slower, but that's the way it goes.

I really think the only thing that kept my times fairly consistent were the spring, shocks, and converter upgrades. My engine kept losing power, and I kept adding other mods to keep it hanging in there.

I'm finally working on the engine now.
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that loss of compression was hurting you wasnt it
 

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I think the norm is like some of us noted (reading high), and it may be that Paul's situation is a little bit unnormal (just for a general consensus).

All stock tachs that I've seen (mine included) read higher than true RPM's. I also think that they do it on purpose - the motorcycle guys have been doing it for years and years (with the speedo's too). Though I think it's done intentionally, if you're going to error high or low, reading too high is the way to go.

Note that I have NOT been to a dyno to make use of their tools, as Paul has. I only can compare a diagnostic tach to my stocker, as they sit next to eachother. And on the 94, I can see RPM while viewing PIDs.
 

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hissin' is like a knowledge base
 

final5-0

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fiveoho said:
hissin' is like a knowledge base
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Yes he is :Word:

Thats whats makes his Avatar so appropriate

He is Mr. Wizard

Now ... For all you ... Young Folk

That is me paying J T a compliment

I had to say that
cause
ya'll wern't around to see Mr. Wizard

He was plenty smart

Grady
 
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