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mkk50

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i have pulled all the codes/ replaced all the spark plugs and the cap and rotor. Pulled the codes, and now i get nothing. The only thing that i can sense is that the car is running rich. Ive cleaned the maf/iac/throttlebody and the egr valve. It idles pretty steadly around 800/850, but seems to be running rich. Any ideas as too why it is?
 

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get tune
 
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egr

when my 90 gt all stock with highflow cats and 40 series failed nox in ohio i changed the egr... the egr however wasnt functioning correctly. it pulls a vacuum under load only but what i found was a the power wire comes from the ecu in the car so i had to change the ecu just to get the egr to work. it worked! i passed echeck... that was my experiance
 
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you said you jsut bought the car a few weeks ago, did you by chance put fuel injector cleaner in it? i had the exact same problem, and it turned out the fuel system cleaner was still in the gas and it kills your emissions. I was lucky and passed by just a bit.
 
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thank good i dont have to go through this!!! How many times do yall have to do this BS????
 

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High NOx readings are usually the result of a non functional EGR system. The EGR add exhaust gasees to lower combustion temps and lower NOx.

Some basic theory to clarify how things work is in order…

The EGR shuts off at Wide Open Throttle (WOT), so it has minimal effect on performance. The addition of exhaust gas drops combustion temperature, increases gas mileage and reduces the tendency of the engine to ping. It can also reduce HC emissions by reducing fuel consumption.

The EGR system has a vacuum source (line from the intake manifold) that goes to the EVR, computer operated electronic vacuum regulator. The EVR is located on the back of the passenger side shock strut tower. The EGR valve and the passages in the heads and intake manifold route exhaust gas to the EGR spacer (throttle body spacer). The computer uses RPM, Load. and some other factors to tell the EVR to pass vacuum to open the EGR valve. The EGR sensor tells the computer how far the EGR valve is open. Then computer adjusts the signal sent to the EVR to hold, increase or decrease the vacuum. The computer adds spark advance to compensate for the recirculated gases and the slower rate they burn at.

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds.


The EGR sensor is basically a variable resistor, like the volume control on a radio. One end is 5 volt VREF power from the computer (red/orange wire). One end is computer signal ground (black/white), and the middle wire (brown/lt green) is the signal output from the EGR sensor. It is designed to always have some small voltage output from it anytime the ignition switch is the Run position. That way the computer knows the sensor & the wiring is OK. No voltage on computer pin 27 (brown/lt green wire) and the computer thinks the sensor is bad or the wire is broken and sets code 31. The voltage output can range from approximately .6-.85 volt.

EGR test procedure courtesy of cjones

to check the EGR valve:
bring the engine to normal temp.
connect a vacuum pump to the EGR Valve
apply 5in vacuum to the valve.
if engine stumbled or died then EGR Valve and passage(there is a passageway through the heads and intake) are good.
if engine did NOT stumble or die then either the EGR Valve is bad and/or the passage is blocked.
if engine stumbled, connect vacuum gauge to the hose coming off of the EGR Valve
snap throttle to 2500 RPM (remember snap the throttle don't hold it there).
did the vacuum gauge show about 5in vacuum?

if not, check for manifold vacuum at the EGR vacuum valve.
if you have manifold vacuum then connect vacuum gauge to the EGR valve side of the vacuum valve and snap throttle to 2500 RPM.
should read about 5in vacuum
 
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