ok sometimes when am at a light and my car is in neutral and i go to put my car in first gear, it wont go in, it feels like there is a way there or something, but i can put it in say 3rd gear then back to first and it will go in? any ideas>"??
first gear lock out?
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Zero_chance
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GTA_V6_Mustang
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Doesnt sound like synchros to me if it doesnt grind. If you are trying to put it in first and it doesnt let you and you slowly release the clutch while trying to put it in will it go in? Sounds like either a shift fork issue(tabs on shift fork maybe) or a clutch issue.
mo_dingo
20+ Year Stangneter 
Many times, if you do not depress the clutch pedal all the way to the floor, mine will do this as well. The floor mat on mine slides all over the place, and usually ends up blocking the clutch.
You may also want to pull up on the clutch pedal once, and if it ratchets, then it was likely out of adjustment. Once is enough.
Also, an adjustable clutch quadrant would help.
Scott
You may also want to pull up on the clutch pedal once, and if it ratchets, then it was likely out of adjustment. Once is enough.
Also, an adjustable clutch quadrant would help.
Scott
GTA_V6_Mustang
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Its like a fork missing the middle prong and it is what shifts your synchros from gear to gear. From what I hear, T5 shift forks are prone to bending, lol
well i just had my mm set up put in......so i know the clutch is realseing al the way now i havent driven it alot so will see how it is now.....
my next ? is there supposed to be a swrew that holds the fwa from moving...cus right now it dosent
my next ? is there supposed to be a swrew that holds the fwa from moving...cus right now it dosent
Yes there is a set screw on most FWA's (if they are not clickers). I set mine initially, then put a mark at 12 o'clock on the adjuster. That way if the clutch starts to feel funny again, I can see if my adjustment walked or if something is happening with hard parts.
Your idle is good. The reason I asked is because sometimes a really low or really high idle makes getting into first consistantly a little tough.
Good luck.
Your idle is good. The reason I asked is because sometimes a really low or really high idle makes getting into first consistantly a little tough.
Good luck.
WHITE94COBRA
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My thoughts exactly, your clutch may be dragging a bit, this is exactly what mine was doing before my clutch swap.
I would want some means of locking the adjustment. Some have a set screw, some have a knurled ring that holds the setting, and some are clickers. I dont lock my FWA (because once I do, I cannot get my arms in there to loosen it) and my adjustment walks. I can feel the clutch get 'looser and looser'. I resnug the adjustment when the POE starts heading towards the floor.
I think I'm a little behind the curve on this thread as far as a possible diagnosis, but I don't believe anyone has mentioned the possibility of a bad pilot bearing as another reason for hard shifting into first. Do you have any difficulty hitting first without the engine running? That would likely indicate a clutch engagement issue.
GTA_V6_Mustang
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Zero Lash,
and a bent shift fork could cause thost same issues as the pilot bearing (giving u trouble putting it in gear even with the car off) Also wouldnt by now the pilot bearing give some related symptoms such as noise?
Zero Lash,
and a bent shift fork could cause thost same issues as the pilot bearing (giving u trouble putting it in gear even with the car off) Also wouldn't by now the pilot bearing give some related symptoms such as noise?
ok well i just got my car back, i had a mm cable, fwa, and quad, put on, and also had the fluid changed, it is still NOTCHY going into the gears!!!..this trans is like 3 months old, and it was very smooth when i got it NO NOTCHY gears!!!
the cable is set to about a inch in free play, (the pedal is floppy for like a inch)
GTA_V6_Mustang
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Where you able to see the condition of the fluid at all? Fluid level? and your FWA should be set at zero lash (no slack)
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