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Just a quick question out there. Ford will probably come out with an 05 Mach 1 right???
 
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nyyankee said:
Just a quick question out there. Ford will probably come out with an 05 Mach 1 right???
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Not necessarily. There's only been rumors about the what the first '05 special edition will be but nothing from Ford.
 

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No one knows for sure but from an economical standpoint it would not make sense for Ford to release a Mach for 2005. The only reason Ford built the Spring Feature Edition GT (2000), Bullitt GT (2001), & the Mach (2003 & 2004) was to re-introduce the Stang to the market since people had become a tad bit bored of it. It was essentially the same car since 1979, just with new bodies thrown over it from time to time to try to keep people coming back. The made a major change in 1995 by dropping to the 4.6L, which actually effected sales quite negatively. Though in 1999 when the 35th Anniversary Edition GT came out, along w/ a revised 4.6L that produced 35HP more than the 1998 & a new body style people were quite interested in the Mustang. Ford knew that all that was not enough, however, which is why they released all the special edition Mustangs that we've seen since 1999. They don't need to do all of that again for quite a while as the new body style, engine, suspension, & just the total makeover of the Mustang for the first time in over 25 years has many buzzing over the new Stang. They are content right now & won't release even a Cobra, which will probably be called the Terminator, until 2006. They won't have the name Boss to use but will use Shelby. I personally don't find it likely that they will introduce the Mach again for at least 4 years. My honest guess is that we won't see a Mach again until about 2025.
 

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downsouthman1 said:
They won't have the name Boss
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Say what? Ford recently renewed its trademark on the Boss name.
 
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351CJ said:
Say what? Ford recently renewed its trademark on the Boss name.
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Hmmm right on so that does mean that we will see another Boss stang! Sweet!
 

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351CJ said:
Say what? Ford recently renewed its trademark on the Boss name.
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Is there some kind of press release when ford did so? I searched and couldnt find anything on it.
 

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downsouthman1 said:
They are content right now & won't release even a Cobra, which will probably be called the Terminator, until 2006.
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um that was the code name for the 03 cobra setup
 

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351CJ said:
Say what? Ford recently renewed its trademark on the Boss name.
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Do you mean Boss Shinoda, cuz Ford ain't gonna make the Boss?
 

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ryanrule said:
um that was the code name for the 03 cobra setup
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True but it's quite likely that the name Cobra will be given to the new Replica Cobra based off the old Shelby 427 & Terminator will be the new name for what we now know as the Cobra Mustang.
 

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Team Shinoda has said many times on this site and others. That they do not own the Boss name. Boss Shinoda yes. Boss no.

You are also assuming they are going to build that new Cobra. Which last I heard was not a definate. And after 10+ years using the Cobra for the SVT Mustang. There would seem to be enough reason to keep it for the SVT line. Of course you also have evidence with the power lease from SVT. Where they state you will have the right to buy an 07 Cobra. Especially when you look at Ford did not name the new GT as the GT-40 for trade name reasons. And the new concept gr-1 has also been associated with Shelby. And yet it is not being called the Cobra Daytona. Basically I would think we should keep from making assumptions about what names aare going to be used.
 

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SVTdriver said:
Team Shinoda has said many times on this site and others. That they do not own the Boss name. Boss Shinoda yes. Boss no.

You are also assuming they are going to build that new Cobra. Which last I heard was not a definate. And after 10+ years using the Cobra for the SVT Mustang. There would seem to be enough reason to keep it for the SVT line. Of course you also have evidence with the power lease from SVT. Where they state you will have the right to buy an 07 Cobra. Especially when you look at Ford did not name the new GT as the GT-40 for trade name reasons. And the new concept gr-1 has also been associated with Shelby. And yet it is not being called the Cobra Daytona. Basically I would think we should keep from making assumptions about what names aare going to be used.
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I would most certainly tend to agree. It is most def possible that SVT will keep the Cobra name for their top-of-the-line Mustang. But then again you never know.
 

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You are also correct. You never know what will happen. But if you look at name recognition. The SVT mustang has been known as a Cobra for over 10 years now. And while the Shelby Cobra concept may also get the cobra name. I personally don't see a need for SVT to give up the name for the Shelby. No one is going to confuse the 2 cars. Yet renaming the SVT Cobra as the terminator. May end up with coprywrite issues (I thought that was the reason the name was only used for the project and not marketed as such.). And people not very involved in mustangs wondering when the Cobra will show up. Possibly thinking the terminator would be only a special edition.
 
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If they have a Ford GT and a Ford Mustang GT, why can't they have a Ford Cobra and a Ford Mustang Cobra?
 

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jadesville said:
Is there some kind of press release when ford did so? I searched and couldnt find anything on it.
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Ford and other car manufacturers do not announce when they've registered or renewed trademarks. However that information is public record as it is registered with the US Patent office. Someone on themustangsource recently posted the renewal info. that is on the US patent office website.

Ford has not said if or when it may use the "Boss" name agian in North American, but Ford has been using the Boss name for many years in Australia.

You can search either place for the info, sorry but I'm too lazy to do it for you.
 

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351CJ said:
Ford and other car manufacturers do not announce when they've registered or renewed trademarks. However that information is public record as it is registered with the US Patent office. Someone on themustangsource recently posted the renewal info. that is on the US patent office website.

Ford has not said if or when it may use the "Boss" name agian in North American, but Ford has been using the Boss name for many years in Australia.

You can search either place for the info, sorry but I'm too lazy to do it for you.
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Oh alright..

SVTdriver said:
You are also correct. You never know what will happen. But if you look at name recognition. The SVT mustang has been known as a Cobra for over 10 years now. And while the Shelby Cobra concept may also get the cobra name. I personally don't see a need for SVT to give up the name for the Shelby. No one is going to confuse the 2 cars. Yet renaming the SVT Cobra as the terminator. May end up with coprywrite issues (I thought that was the reason the name was only used for the project and not marketed as such.). And people not very involved in mustangs wondering when the Cobra will show up. Possibly thinking the terminator would be only a special edition.
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Terminator is just the project name of the 03-04 Cobra. Daisy was the project name of the new Shelby Cobra. They are not used for marketing. But I wouldnt be confused if there was a Shelby Cobra, and a SVT Cobra, considering they would be two different cars.
 

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jadesville said:
But I wouldnt be confused if there was a Shelby Cobra, and a SVT Cobra, considering they would be two different cars.
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I don't honestly think anybody would. But people are still guessing that SVT will give up the cobra name.
 

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jadesville said:
Terminator is just the project name of the 03-04 Cobra. They are not used for marketing.
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I heard that some people in Ford wanted to call the 03 Cobra "The Terminator" or "Terminator Cobra", but that got nixed due to hassles with whatever the movie studio is that owns the "Terminator" name.

Car companies hate spending an extra nickle on anything, especialy a license fee for a name. GM almost dropped the "Trans-Am" name several times because of the small license fee (I heard $20 / per Trans-Am) that they had to pay the SCCA to use it.
 

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If they have a Ford GT and a Ford Mustang GT, why can't they have a Ford Cobra and a Ford Mustang Cobra?



Thanks Enfynet


Great point
 
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