anthony05gt said:The unions have destoyed industry in this country. They hold the management hostage for deals that are ridiculous. Why should some jackass on an assembly line with no skill other than bitching and bolting a battery in make more money than an experienced private sector technician who could fix just about anything that comes his way. I could see if the private sector guys were making substantially more money for comparable skills, but that's just not the case. You can't blame the health care costs for stupid decisions made by management who are being held hostage by the unions. I've done many a job for union outfits that don't want me there because I work circles around the lazy whiners who couldn't fix their junk without a guy from my company. I've got friends that work as forklift mechanics at GM and they can't even begin removing an engine until a union electrician comes to disconnect the battery when he's damn good and ready. Until the electrician gets there, the mechanic sits on his rump.
If you are a union member I see why you are happy and that's ok, you are benefitting from the way things are. More power to you.
351CJ said:You are seriously misinformed. The Mondeo and 500 are completely different vehicles built on totally different platforms.
SVTdriver said:While I have worked for unions and non-union shops. And have no real preference. You are right and wrong. Yes SOME union workers are worthless. And would never continue to work at a non-union shop. But there are other people who do great work for the union. One example of a battery installer does not make a case for bad union employees. Management is rarely ever held hostage by unions. The employer can hire replacement temporary employees (And often do in some business lines). And no union can make a company agree to a contract that will drive them out of business. If the company is TRULY going under due to things in the union contract. The company can and sometimes gets concessions. As it is far better to lose some benefits than become unemployed. If you haven't watched the news. When most union/company contracts are being negotiated. One of the largest concerns is healthcare costs. It is a simple reality that healthcare costs are through the roof. With no real point of stopping. Which means everyone has to pay more for coverage. Which means they need to either have higher wages. Or get the company to pay more towards healthcare. Either way good things have come from unions (As well as some bad). But in some cases a union is a neccessary "evil". The garabe company Iworked for. If it had not had a union to hold them in check. They would have gotten rid of every employee. And found people who would do the job for minimum wage. But do you really want someone being paid minimum wage driving a heavy vehicle around streets your family may walk on? I've seen some of the non-union drivers. And while very little frightens me. They do.
anthony05gt said:The unions have destoyed industry in this country. They hold the management hostage for deals that are ridiculous. Why should some jackass on an assembly line with no skill other than bitching and bolting a battery in make more money than an experienced private sector technician who could fix just about anything that comes his way. I could see if the private sector guys were making substantially more money for comparable skills, but that's just not the case. You can't blame the health care costs for stupid decisions made by management who are being held hostage by the unions. I've done many a job for union outfits that don't want me there because I work circles around the lazy whiners who couldn't fix their junk without a guy from my company. I've got friends that work as forklift mechanics at GM and they can't even begin removing an engine until a union electrician comes to disconnect the battery when he's damn good and ready. Until the electrician gets there, the mechanic sits on his rump.
If you are a union member I see why you are happy and that's ok, you are benefitting from the way things are. More power to you.
Gorilla68 said:problems for all US automakers:
unions choking industry.
management too slow to adapt and react to marketplace due to bloated upper mangement. decisions are made at glacial speed. public perception: japs making more reliable cars. germans are better engineers.
my personal take on it: many US autos seem cheap in the aesthetics and tactile featueres of their vehicles. I sat in an H2 recently, the interior was so cheap plastic looking I would have felt ripped off had i bought the vehicle at the money they wanted for it. I also had a rental vehicle recently, chevy malibu. interior config was unattractive and not functional. it seemed as if it were made by playskool. save for a few overpriced sporty models, or slightly overpriced but cool cars like the stangs, the US cars on the whole seem crappy, flimsy and poorly engineered. I had a 2000 chevy blazer on a 3 year lease. babied the truck. it was falling apart as i was driving it by the third year. the heater core went bad at 31000 miles for christ's sake!
stanmckinney said:Ford needs some creative thinkers. Dodge was almost dead and now offers some of the hottest-looking cars out there.
blacksheep06 said:Name one
J/K The challenger is going to be sweet, but personally I just don't like anything Dodge has done since the RAM redesign several years ago.
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