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Fords Secret Factory Additive To Hide 5.0 Engine Tick?

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I have been reading through a TON of info regarding the well known and common engine tick issue on the 2011-2019 5.0 engines. Everyone who has this issue reveals that it occurs after the first oil change. So this made me wonder if Ford uses a special motor oil additive from the factory to hide this sound from new buyers. A convenient excuse being given to those who come to close to the truth are informed that this additive is simply an engine "break-in" additive added at the factory for new engine assemblies. Has anyone ever heard of Motorcraft XL-17 additive? I have heard that this additve instantly cures the 5.0 engine tick...

After MANY YEARS Ford is now FINALLY admitting to this "typewriter" "BBQ" tick, but says it is "normal". But Ford wont give an explanation of what it is.

Let us discuss!
 
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ALSO, online Ford Service reps on online 5.0 forums throughout the net avoid any questions regarding this, and any similar additive which cure the 5.0 tick. Very suspicious I say!
 

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I don't know...but I personally know a guy that had a 2018 and was on his second engine when ford bought him out of his loan. He had less than 20k on both engines combined. Also, had 2 18s come through my job ( used dealer ) and both needed engines. One had something come apart in the timing chain area. Another had the tick and mechanical misfire.

I'm a master technician and the proud owner of a 19 ecoboost....I don't trust the new direct injected 5.0.
 
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I don't have any solid information here. Ths first engine on my 2017 was replaced due to piston slap. 2nd one developed the tick after first oil change. Was about to start on a buyback process but then I tried ceratec. Tick gone. Engine sounds so much smoother in general. I decided to keep it and have had no issues in 18k miles.

It sucks I have to add an additive every oil change and I don't think it's right but I like the car so...that's what I do.
 
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I've been thinking about buying a newer model Mustang lately. But after reading an absolute flood of complaints involving ticking issues on the new 5.0 engines, I shall pass. I will stick to my old reliable pushrod 5.0 and my 4.6.
 
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Try using a heavier weight oil than ford recommends. I had an 05 F150 with the 3v engine and the dreaded cam phaser rattle. Ford said to use 5w-20, I switched to 10w-30 and the rattle was much less but still there so on the next oil change I tried 10w-40 and the noise was gone.

Ford and all the other manufacturers use the modern lightweight oil (which is like water) to squeeze every last drop of fuel economy out of these engines. I don't blame them, they gotta meet gov't standards. I just ignore what they recommend and use common sense when I choose what oil to use. I've been doing this since 2006 and have not had an issue since. I currently run 10-30 in my explorer and 5-30 in my mustang and all is well.
 
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I Bleed Ford Blue said:
Try using a heavier weight oil than ford recommends. I had an 05 F150 with the 3v engine and the dreaded cam phaser rattle. Ford said to use 5w-20, I switched to 10w-30 and the rattle was much less but still there so on the next oil change I tried 10w-40 and the noise was gone.

Ford and all the other manufacturers use the modern lightweight oil (which is like water) to squeeze every last drop of fuel economy out of these engines. I don't blame them, they gotta meet gov't standards. I just ignore what they recommend and use common sense when I choose what oil to use. I've been doing this since 2006 and have not had an issue since. I currently run 10-30 in my explorer and 5-30 in my mustang and all is well.
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5W-30 is what I have been using in my 4.6 3v without any issues. 5W-20 is just too thin in my opinion. Also, the same cars with the same engines sold overseas list 5w-30 in their owners manuals. It truly is about the CAFE standards which involve meeting fuel standards or being fined by Government.
 

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4 year old thread.
Non issue today
 
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4 year old thread.
Non issue today
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Incorrect.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10251951-0001.pdf
 

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5literPwr said:
Incorrect.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10251951-0001.pdf
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The TSB specifically states: "This an operating characteristic of the 5.0L
engine and no repairs should be attempted."
Not an issue today, or ever.
Just because someone thinks it is a concern, does not make it a concern.
5-20 oil is also not a concern, regardless of how someone feels about it.
GM uses 0-20 in it's 3.0L Duramax diesel. Yet 5-20 in a 5.0 gas engine is a bridge to far?
Toyota uses a 0-16 weight oil. Guess we need to tell them they don't know WTH they are doing as well. Despite engines lasting well over 100K miles.
 
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