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FRONT END WOBBLE?

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Last week I replaced my shocks,struts,sway bar bushings, & sway bar link bushings. This morning while driving to work I notice a wobble in the front end. I have put a little over 100 miles since this change. When I got home I jack the car up and noticed play in the right front wheel....I can take the wheel and move it back and fourth. I took the wheel off just to make sure it wasn't a lose wheel. The knuckle & strut has movement. It's not a up and down movement and it's only on the right side.

If the top stut nut is not tight enough could that cause the movement. My compressor crapped out as I was tightning the right side top nut. Not sure if I got it tight enough.

Thanks for any idea's
 

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Well, what do you drive. There are some different spindle/strut setups over the years. Might be nice to know what we are working with here and what brand struts you put in.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
Well, what do you drive. There are some different spindle/strut setups over the years. Might be nice to know what we are working with here and what brand struts you put in.
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I guess that would help....89 Vert and I put Monroe Sensa -Trac shocks and struts. It drove just fine for the 1st 100 miles or so.
 

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Is it an LX?

When you asked for the part, did you specify your model as an LX or a GT?

Reason i ask is because there is a difference between 5.0 and base model spindles where the strut bolts up. A lot of computer systems give out 4-banger part numbers even when you specify 5.0 LX.

I'd put the front on jackstands and push things around. Check the strut to spindle bolts and make sure they are tight. There should be no gap between the mount flange and spindle
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
Is it an LX?

When you asked for the part, did you specify your model as an LX or a GT?

Reason i ask is because there is a difference between 5.0 and base model spindles where the strut bolts up. A lot of computer systems give out 4-banger part numbers even when you specify 5.0 LX.

I'd put the front on jackstands and push things around. Check the strut to spindle bolts and make sure they are tight. There should be no gap between the mount flange and spindle
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It's a GT...
I had our front end guy at work look at it (I work for a Ford dealer)....the inner tie rods are shot.
He want's a arm and leg to install a new rack. With money being tight right now...I can't afford to buy the rack and pay labor.
I'm thinking about doing it myself. Is it a hard job to do? Once I get everything disconnected ...will the rack come out easy ...or will I have to fight with it?

Thanks for any help....our machanic's don't want to give advice because they want to do the job.
 

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Do you need a new rack? The inner rods are replacable. Just unsure if the failure is in the rack of the tie rods.

Replacing the rack is easy. I wouldn't sweat it too much. Search around though as plenty of people have done it and you can find some tips
 

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The two inner tie rod ends are usually what wears out, and at $45 each, it's better to get a replacement rack assembly since they are part of the package. The rack is about $100 + a $40 refundable core charge, which you get back when you return the old rack. Be sure to ask for the GT or high performance rack, it has fewer turns lock to lock than the standard rack.

The flex coupling for the steering shaft needs to be disconnected before you can get the rack out. You should disassemble the coupling by removing the 2 bolts that hold it together. The lower part of the coupling will then come out with the rack, and can easily be removed.

The tie rod ends can be removed with a tool that looks like a giant "pickle fork", it's less than $8, or some stores will rent/loan one. Remove the cotter pin & nut on the tie end, stick the tool between the rod end and the arm it connects and hammer away. The bigger the hammer, the easier it comes apart.

Remove the two bolts that bolt the rack assembly to the frame and then pull the rack down. Get a catch pan to dump the fluid in when you disconnect the hydraulic lines. I replaced the rack mount bushings with some Energy Suspension urethane ones. When you re-install the rack assembly, put the rear bushings in the rack assembly and lift it into place. Then install the front bushings & washers and tighten down the nuts. Doing it this way makes room for the hydraulic lines without having them bind against the frame.

To change the tie rod ends, do them one at a time. Loosen the jam nut 1/4 turn, then unscrew the tie rod end from the rack. Turn the jam nut back 1/4 turn to return it to its original position. With the tie rod end removed, use a machinist square to measure the distance between the end of the threaded rod and the jam nut. Sit the bottom of the square against the end of the threaded rod, and the end of the blade of the square against the jam nut. Duplicate the measurement on the new rack and then install the tie rod end and tighten the jam nut. Then do the other side: the front end will need aligning, but the toe in will be close enough to the setting of the original rack to drive.

Buy several extra quarts of fluid to run through the system to flush it when you change the rack. The car needs to be up on jackstands for the next step. Fill the pump up, start the car, and turn the wheels lock to lock to bleed the air out. Then stop the engine, disconnect the low pressure hose (the one that is secured with a hose clamp) and drain the pump. Re-connect, refill and do it several more times or until the fluid looks clear and not burnt or black.

Power steering pressure lines:
Each hose uses an O ring on each end to seal them. The hoses will swivel when they are installed and tightened into place. That is why there are O rings on the fittings. The O ring is the part that actually makes the pressure seal. If you slide the nut all the way back as far as it will go, you will see the O ring and the groove cut into the center section of the fitting.



Sometimes you will get some white Teflon rings with the pump or rack. The rings go on the threaded part of the fitting to reduce or prevent small leaks. They are not meant to seal the pressure part of the line or substitute for the rubber O ring. Heat the white Teflon seals in hot water and they will be easier to install. You can install the fittings without them and not have any leaks if the O rings seal good.
 
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The rack is leaking a bit ....so I'm just going to replace the whole thing.

I can get a Vistion reman for $70.00 and Motorcraft ends for $30.00 ea.

I guess I give it a shot this weekend.

Thanks for all the help.
 

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I'm having the same exact problem, DS inner tie rod end, thanks for the info.
 
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