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riceslayer302

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my stock fuel gauge has been wrong since i bought my car, it actually caused me a ton of hassles when i first got it, i ran out of gas and thought i had a 1/2 tank but it was really empty haha.

i just bought a 255 intank pump that im going to do this coming week, but i cant remember how the fuel gauges work, is there a float switch on the fuel sending unit in the tank or is it a different sensor on the other side of the tank? i want to say i remember a float on the sending unit when i changed my pump last year but i cant remember. i just wanna get a new float unit so while i have the tank dropped i can put a new one in and hopefully fix this dumb problem.

any other ideas on what may be causing the gauge to be off? someone put white face gauges in it before i got it and i thought the needle might be sticking but im not totally sure. its been over a year since i drove it but i remember it would move but sometimes stay in one spot and then drop randomly. its left me stranded a couple times haha and now with the new setup i want to fix it once and for all.
 

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the float is a stand alone unit. it is in the center of the tank.
 

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so the piece that the fuel pump sits in is called what?

and the sending unit is the piece with the float?
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I have the opposite problem. I can fill my car up untill the fuel is coming out the gas filler and it will only read 3/4 of a tank. But I can ride around on E for like 70 to 90 miles lol.
 

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hahaha i am in the middle of changing it right now, too bad it didnt work apparently i had a pretty full tank... what a pain in the ass when your alone
 

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The red/yellow wire (power supply to gauge & sender) should have 12 volts when the ignition is in the start or Run position.

The next steps require dropping the fuel tank and removal of the fuel level sender. Here are some useful tips...

I have done the tank removal three times, and the main issues are getting the car up on jack stands and getting the gas out of the tank. DO NOT try to do this job without jack stands. Becoming a pancake is not part of the repair process.

Pumping out the old gas:
If the old pump still works, you can use it to pump the tank out.
1.) Separate the pressure line (the one with the Schrader valve on it) using the fuel line tools.
Look in the A/C repair section for the fuel line tools. They look like little plastic top hats. You will need the 1/2" & 5/8" ones. The hat shaped section goes on facing the large part of the coupling. Then you press hard on the brim until it forces the sleeve into the coupling and releases the spring. You may need someone to pull on the line while you press on the coupling.


Use a piece of garden hose to run from the pressure line to your bucket or gas can. Make sure it is as leak proof as you can make it. Fire and explosion are not part of the repair process...

2.) Jumper the fuel pump test point to ground.

Turn the ignition switch to the Run position. the fuel pump will pump the tank almost dry unless the battery runs down first.

Some 5 gallon paint pails lined with garbage bags are good to hold the gas. The garbage bags provide a clean liner for the pails and keep the loose trash out of the gas so you can reuse it. If you decide to use a siphon, a piece of 1/2" garden hose stuck down the filler neck will siphon all but a gallon or so of the gas.

Remove the filler neck bolts and put them in a zip bag. Disconnect the supply & return lines by removing the plastic clips from the metal tubing. If you damage the clips, you can get new ones form the auto part store for just a few dollars. I have used tie-wraps, but that is not the best choice. Then you remove the two 9/16" nuts that hold the T bolts to the straps. Put the nuts in the zip bag with the filler bolts. Pull the plastic shield down and away from the tank. Once the tank drops a little bit you can disconnect the wiring for the pump & fuel quantity sender.

The fuel gauge sender assembly comes out by removing a large metal ring that unscrews from the tank. There is a separate mounting/access plate for the fuel pump and fuel gage. You are supposed to use a brass punch to tap on the ring so that you don't make sparks. Look closely at the rubber O ring gasket when you remove the fuel gauge sender.
When you install the metal ring that holds the sender in place, watch out for the gasket O ring. Some RTV may be helpful if the ring is not in excellent condition.

The tank to filler pipe seal is a large rubber grommet. Inspect it for hardening, tears and damage. At $20 from the Ford dealer, it might be a good idea to replace it.

I used a floor jack to help lift the tank back in place. You may find that it is the only time you really can make good use of a helper.

All resistance measurements should be made with the power off.

Note from bstrd86 - 86 and older fuel tank sender units are 73 ohms empty, 8-12 ohms full.


The yellow/white wire will show a voltage that varies with the movement of the float on the sender unit. To test the sender, set your Ohmmeter or DVM on low Ohms. Then disconnect the sender and connect the Ohmmeter or DVM to the yellow/white and black wires from the sender unit. Move the float arm while watching the Ohmmeter or DVM. You should see the reading change from 22 to 145 ohms +/- 10%.

If the Ohmmeter or DVM resistance readings are way off, replace the tank sender unit.

Use extreme caution if you do the next step. Fumes from the gas tank can easily ignite and cause a fire or explosion.
With the sender unit out of the tank and connected to the body wiring harness, turn the ignition switch to the Run position. Move the float arm and the fuel gauge indicator should move. If you are very careful, you can use a pair of safety pins inserted in the connector for the yellow/white and black wires to measure the voltage as you move the float arm. The voltage will change, but I have no specs for what it should be.
Do not short the safety pins together or to ground. If you do, you may damage the anti-slosh module or crate a spark. A spark with the fuel tank open could cause a fire or an explosion.

If the voltage does not change and the tanks sender passed the resistance tests, the anti-slosh module or gauge is bad.
 
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I have the same problem in mine. I daily drive, so I average around the same MPG. I just guess based on how many miles I drove and how much I got on the throttle. It's a pain though because my car will read full and suddenly drop to a quarter, then when I get on the throttle, the gauge will rise, not fall. My light is reliable though. Comes on with 3 gallons left no matter what. If you got the time, fix it though. It's better than guessing
 
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