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LS2 KLR

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I was wondering if anyone has cutout the molding on their hood scoops? I was thinking about doing it to help cool my motor but wasn't sure if it would work.
 
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it works but it takes a long time, and cutting your stock hood. I did it, but i wouldn't go back and do it again.
 
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How hard can it be. I would imagine that taking the honeycomb grill on the scoop is not that hard, but I guess cutting the hood is not that simple? I was thinking about it as well but I think that I might wait sometime before I do it.

Maybe I can eventually spend some cash on the Aftermarket Mach1 scoop.
 
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Cali03Boss

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You cannot remove the honeycomb. It provides an important link to holding the scoop down. You have to take it off, drill holes through the pre-made non-functional holes in the honeycomb, then cut your hood, remove the desired part of your fire blanket, put it back on and make sure u didnt screw anything up. Also, i would recommend putting a metal-wire screen over hold you cut in your hood, this way bugs and stuff can't go screaming into your engine bay. If you really wanna catch peoples attention, go buy some 1 1/2 x 4 inch thick duct tubing. Find the right amount youd need to direct airflow from the hood opening to your airbox assembly.
 

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Seeing as he has a '99, i am not sure if he's talking about his stock non-scooped '99 hood or the later '01+ scoop style hood.

I would think it would be easier with the 01+'s seeing as you cut the hole on the hood under the scoop and then drill out the black scoop insert out.

For the 99-00 hood, not sure how you would do it? Just drill right through the black trim down into the hood and on through??
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
Seeing as he has a '99, i am not sure if he's talking about his stock non-scooped '99 hood or the later '01+ scoop style hood.
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I thought the 35th Anniversary GTs had the raised hood scoop common to the 01+ GTs
 

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fellamansteve said:
I thought the 35th Anniversary GTs had the raised hood scoop common to the 01+ GTs
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It does, but not sure if he has a 35th anniversary GT model, or he's just stating his GT was a 35th because of the badging on the side. The 99-00 GT has the same hood as the V6 models without the big scoop.


OT. Is the scoops and side scoops on the '99 35TH model the same as the '01+ scoops? I've heard the hood scoop is slightly different, but what about the side scoops? Anyone got some close pics of them?
 
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rickster99

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Crap now I am all confused. Does anyone have pictures of a non-functional hood scoop they might have modified in anyway?
 

LS2 KLR

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Yes I do have a 35th Edition gt with the smaller scoop. I wasn't aware the honeycomb held the scoop in place. My first idea was to remove it and replace it with some sort of mesh grill. If it will help I guess I'll be starting on this soon. Thanks and I'll let you guys know how it goes.
 

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Joe347R6 said:
Yes I do have a 35th Edition gt with the smaller scoop. I wasn't aware the honeycomb held the scoop in place. My first idea was to remove it and replace it with some sort of mesh grill. If it will help I guess I'll be starting on this soon. Thanks and I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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If you remove the honeycomb, put mesh grill in there, and DON"T cut holes in the hood you stand a good chance of the scoop stating flap in the wind on the highway.
 

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Well what you could do is buy some light weigh sheet metal and make a thin square piece, all welded to gether except the top, then weld the open top of it to the underside of your hood right over the hole, to seal it.Then make a runner from the main box, like 4inches wide with about 2inch tall sides with the top open and weld it to the hood (very simular to the SS camaros hood) and run it along the top of the hoodand curve back around to the front of the hood, all the way to you airfilter.If the intake is stock, curve the 2 by 4 inch sheet metal down right over the plastic air filter holder.Cut a piece out of the plastic that is a little bigger than the outside deminsions of the metal air runner and then when you close your hood the protruding runner fits right down into the plastic filter housing about a half inch or maybe a little less.be sure to mold some rubber on both peices to ensure a tight fit, and also plug off the air silencer so that the engine can only pull air through your home made ram air system.Now if you didnt understand that, here is how it works, the air comes into the hood scoop, right down the hole you cut in the hood into the enclosed box attached to your hood, then the air is forced down the corridor that you plugged into that metal box (be sure to pre cut that hole into the metal box so you can just put the runner right into it and seal it up) straight into the stock air filter holder and then right into your engine.You could clean that design up so that it would flow better, but you get what I am saying.Thats what I would do if I were to do that and if you have a S/C I wouldnt go through all that, I would just let the scoop blow straight down onto the intake manifold so that I would get a SLIGHTLY cooler intake charge by cooling all that down a bit.
 

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hotmustang331 said:
Well what you could do is buy some light weigh sheet metal and make a thin square piece, all welded to gether except the top, then weld the open top of it to the underside of your hood right over the hole, to seal it.Then make a runner from the main box, like 4inches wide with about 2inch tall sides with the top open and weld it to the hood (very simular to the SS camaros hood) and run it along the top of the hoodand curve back around to the front of the hood, all the way to you airfilter.If the intake is stock, curve the 2 by 4 inch sheet metal down right over the plastic air filter holder.Cut a piece out of the plastic that is a little bigger than the outside deminsions of the metal air runner and then when you close your hood the protruding runner fits right down into the plastic filter housing about a half inch or maybe a little less.be sure to mold some rubber on both peices to ensure a tight fit, and also plug off the air silencer so that the engine can only pull air through your home made ram air system.Now if you didnt understand that, here is how it works, the air comes into the hood scoop, right down the hole you cut in the hood into the enclosed box attached to your hood, then the air is forced down the corridor that you plugged into that metal box (be sure to pre cut that hole into the metal box so you can just put the runner right into it and seal it up) straight into the stock air filter holder and then right into your engine.You could clean that design up so that it would flow better, but you get what I am saying.Thats what I would do if I were to do that and if you have a S/C I wouldnt go through all that, I would just let the scoop blow straight down onto the intake manifold so that I would get a SLIGHTLY cooler intake charge by cooling all that down a bit.
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Or he could just go buy a CDC Shaker hood scoop kit
 

LS2 KLR

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I have seen a true ram air kit for $400 but doesn't seem worth it. I'll be painting it next year and going with the cobra r hood so I'd just like to play with this one.
 

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hotmustang331 said:
then weld the open top of it to the underside of your hood...
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Weld it to your hood? Ummm, not flaming you or nothing but you need to go check what your hood is made of.
 

hotmustang331

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twogts4us said:
Weld it to your hood? Ummm, not flaming you or nothing but you need to go check what your hood is made of.
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Well it felt like metal LOL.What is it then, I know that the scoop feels like plastic or fiber glass, so the hood cant be plastic or anything right? Well pop rivit then or run a stud and nut through it and the hood to get it nice and tight....both of those should be UNDER the scoop so they are not visible.I know that noone will probably never do this, but you never know LOL.I would put on a shaker hood scoop but I really like the look of the factory GT scoop better.
 

z3r0c00l

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Did this on my daily driver for fun:
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Now trying to build it up similar to my custom GT
 

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z3r0c00l said:
Did this on my daily driver for fun:
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Now trying to build it up similar to my custom GT
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Wow awsome, that looks good.Do you feel any difference in power?Its alot easier than my susgestion too and it works.If you can get the twin scoops to blend in better in the scoop, it would be even better.
 

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Looks like the Space Shuttle before liftoff... Is that, like, dryer hose? How is it routed and what happens when you close the hood?
The lack of hood insulator made lead to paint damage from excessive engine heat soaking the hood.
Did you drill holes in the hood, in front of the scoop, to hold those brackets? Ouch!
This is on your less than two month old GT?!?! Well, as long as you like it...
 

z3r0c00l

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I've done some more work on this to make it look better. Now the scoop draws lots of comments. The pipes only stick out 1/8 of an inch from the honeycomb. I've now got rubber seals around them to make a nice finish.

I tied the hoses to secure it to the hood. Closes and opens just fine now. Took some doing though.

Not sure if there is any power improvement. I did this more just because I like to modify things from scratch. Just a project car really.

I'll be getting the pipes chromed soon and that should look nice against the honeycomb.

I used extra bracing on the hood and rubber seals for leak protection.

The tubes run directly into the air box.
 
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I did it by drilling holes in the honeycomb, and then cutting a huge hole in my hood. However, I don't think it had any cooling effect whatsoever, because the holes were too small, and I was always worried that the cheap plastic scoop would fly off, so I finally got a 1995 Cobra R hood, for real cooling, and much better aerodynamics.
 
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