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limp

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For the second time my newly rebuilt 302 had gas in the oil......
rofessionally machined 030 over with forged pistons.....
For the record it is not streetable yet, so no long drives, A break in start and the few start ups and warm up to back it out of the garage...
This is an 83 carbureted car, with a new summit carburetor.....

After the break in and maybe 2 start ups, I had a " helper" pump the brakes as I was bleeding them... To shorten this story he was pumping the gas pedal and I am sure he drained the primary carb bowl into the engine...... Did not start it but let it sit for a few days, letting it evaporate was my thought..
Smelled the dipstick and it was very gassy.. Changed the oil and filter, started and warmed it up maybe 2 more times
Had a noisy lifter so I removed the valve cover and the gas smell coming from the rocker arm/Head area was really strong....
Drained the oil ( overnite) and changed it and the filter.....

It ran and starts great, Idles fine with no smoke from the exhaust.... Fuel bowl levels are correct and I see no leaks....
I have read where the mechanical fuel pump ( its a brand new carter) can leak past the diaphragm into the crankcase.....
Been no reason to start it since the last oil change but I am a bit hesitant to start it ....... Next time I start it I would like to take it for a bit of a drive and warm everything up....
Some have said the engine has not had a chance to get and stay warm to burn this off, but it seems like there was a fair amount of fuel in it and I think the noisy lifter was due to the gassy oil..
Concern has also been that the " brake" helper washed the rings and created this when he pumped all of the raw gas into it, but I think this is a bit of a stretch, at least I hope so....

First SBF I have worked on and wondered if any of you " pros" have any comments.... thanks
 

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Doesn't matter if its a fomoco, mopar,or bowtie a new build needs to have a few heat cycles and then the rings need to be seated.
Get it street able and put some heat into it then check the dipstick.
 
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I think you'll be good after changing the oil, maybe squirt a little clean oil into the plug holes and roll it over a couple times with plugs out, yes I have encountered a manual fuel pump leaking into the crankcase, but they were Brand X cars soooo
 
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Mechanical fuel pump?

Change it.
 

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Noobz347 said:
Mechanical fuel pump?

Change it.
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As in a new mechanical or install an electric??
 

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Just replace it with another one. There's probably a pin hole in the diaphragm. Seems like the easiest, cheapest thing to do is replace it, change the oil, and see what happens next.
 
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Noobz347 said:
Just replace it with another one. There's probably a pin hole in the diaphragm. Seems like the easiest, cheapest thing to do is replace it, change the oil, and see what happens next.
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Cheap insurance move!
 
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You're suppose to call the General for cheap to insurance
 
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You're suppose to call the be real for cheap to insurance
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My Father, who passed away 2+ years ago at 93, grew up during the Great depression or at least the tail end of it which was still bad...
You have NO idea what cheap is..
My Rock Auto order should be here on Friday.... All of the local places had to order it, so I did it myself......
 

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limp said:
My Father, who passed away 2+ years ago at 93, grew up during the Great depression or at least the tail end of it which was still bad...
You have NO idea what cheap is..
My Rock Auto order should be here on Friday.... All of the local places had to order it, so I did it myself......
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I edited my post,it was ment for The General. But I know my mom told us she was a little girl during the depression and her mom couldn't afford meat so she would make lentil soup because it had just as much protein as steak and growing kids need protein.
 

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I edited my post,it was ment for The General. But I know my mom told us she was a little girl during the depression and her mom couldn't afford meat so she would make lentil soup because it had just as much protein as steak and growing kids need protein.
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My grandfather was a Dentist so they didn't do without much... The times were such that Everyone worked together ( unlike today) and it created some real frugality...
When I was very young, my dad saved every nut, bolt and screw in Cigar boxes, Mason jars, and egg cartons... In All fairness, I do too, but they are organized in bins so I know whats what, for ANY fastener for a go kart, mini bike or Motorcycle we had to go through EVERYONE of those friggin boxes and jars that NEVER had what was needed.... The Hardware store was less than 2 miles away for the 10 cent fastener I usually needed//
 
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I'm pretty well organized, it's all in the garage or upstairs or in a store room down the street.
 
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General karthief said:
in a store room down the street.
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About 6 months ago I went over south of tampa to visit with a guy who builds restomod corvettes.. He s;pecializes in C1 cars ( 53-62) ... Unbelievable build he was doing in his garage with his son and employee. ( He is 83)
I went to look at an aftermarket frame I was thinking of buying. He had one in his " storage" shop he graciously offered to let me look at ..... dumpy looking storage area, but inside there were 3 or 4 C1-C2 cars with frames and parts all over... 3 crates in the middle were brand new LS3 crate motors for upcoming projects..... Gearhead heaven...
 
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Oh yeah, road trip to Seguin, TX for this...
 

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When we leaving?
 

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When we leaving?
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Already been there, the frame is what I brought back... Its sittin in my garage in that pic....
TRYING to push all of it in a corner and get the mustang on the road..
Had some great Texas hospitality from these people the two days I spent in Sequin TX
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Were waiting for you to drive that stang.
 
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Crap!! I need to road trip to Georgia and Tennessee with some parts...
 

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nickyb said:
Were waiting for you to drive that stang.
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Yeah me too... I would be lying if I said my new project hasn't slowed down work on the Mustang... I am down to only one drivable car so I need to get it going for a secondary car... Summer in Florida has arrived, so I only have a few hours in the AM before it gets too hot to do anything......
I have taken all I need from my 85 corvette parts car. Front end, rear end, and the engine so I hope to sell off or trash whats left of it to get it gone.. Need to finish up some soffit on my home, THEN its full speed on the Mustang
 
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Direct from Rock Auto........
 
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