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Gears and Slicks are worthless

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Jackie Chan

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Yes its true, on mustangs, just like longtube headers. Gears and slicks are worthless at the strip.
 

Graham052

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damnit!! I wish someone would have told me this before I got my gears........ what a waste
 

Jackie Chan

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actually its going to hurt your dyno performance. with stupid gears skewing your numbers down. I mean if you are serious about your car you will put a 2.73 ring and pinion in so you can get the highest dyno possible.
 

GTvert01

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Tell me about it, what a waste of money.Now I can't do smokey burnouts off the line.Since my wheels aren't spinning as much, it really lowered my trap speed.What good is running 12s if it can't be at 125 mph? My arms are tired from shifting that extra time since the gear change too.Looking back, should have bought a spiralmax.
 

WhiteDevil69

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GTvert01 said:
Tell me about it, what a waste of money.Now I can't do smokey burnouts off the line.Since my wheels aren't spinning as much, it really lowered my trap speed.What good is running 12s if it can't be at 125 mph? My arms are tired from shifting that extra time since the gear change too.Looking back, should have bought a spiralmax.
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Please tell me your all kidding or crazy, why would you possibly not like gears at the track??? and how can you guys say Slicks dont help...did i miss a joke or something?
 

Sleepy1

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I just put some chrome on my car to make it go faster.
 
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millatime

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go read about how long tube headers are a waste on n/a cars...you'll understand
 

XTONKAX

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Jackie Chan said:
actually its going to hurt your dyno performance. with stupid gears skewing your numbers down. I mean if you are serious about your car you will put a 2.73 ring and pinion in so you can get the highest dyno possible.
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Will they increase my top end speed though?





 

hognutz

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If you really want to make power. you run single 1 3/4 inch exaust. then you put one big muffler with a crome tip right at the back. run some 2.73 gears with 195 rear tires.

once you have all that power then you put a huge aluminum wing or wale tale on it for downforce so you can harness all the raw power.

If you really want more you but a body kit and neon under it because those give you another 50hp guarantied.

then you go get some speaker boxes made that look like nos bottles so you car really screams.
 

nickthegenius

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Thanks for starting this thread. As many newbies as we get on here, we don't want to lead them down the wrong path. With the informative header post, we got a great start. In fact, we need a FAQ that is a sticky a the top. I nominate the first two authors for this straight-up, fact-based "Money Wasting Mods" FAQ as:

MustangLife- Long Tube Headers
KirkyG- Centrifugal Superchargers
 

WhiteDevil69

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millatime said:
go read about how long tube headers are a waste on n/a cars...you'll understand
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Thank god, i thought i was in the Twilight zone or something. Please feel free to talk as much trash about that guy as possible, im off to lunch
 

edcar01gt

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i guess it depends if your putting gears on an auto or 5 spd....the 4.10's on my car worked wonders, but its an auto....as for the slicks...i got the nitto dr's and they actually worsened my track times...went back to stock tires and times improved....
 

Dallasgt01

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with 4.10s i think my 60 ft went up to like 4.26 on a set of Nitto DRs god with the stock 3.27 i was runing in the 1.9s damn it.. that was on a drag radial also...
 

Sleepy1

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Hey Hognutz, you forgot the mandatory stickers...each one is worth at least 5hp. And if you put them on the rear window, they become worth 10hp.
 

Dallasgt01

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hognutz said:
If you really want to make power. you run single 1 3/4 inch exaust. then you put one big muffler with a crome tip right at the back. run some 2.73 gears with 195 rear tires.

once you have all that power then you put a huge aluminum wing or wale tale on it for downforce so you can harness all the raw power.

If you really want more you but a body kit and neon under it because those give you another 50hp guarantied.

then you go get some speaker boxes made that look like nos bottles so you car really screams.
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You did not know that each sticker is worth atleast 15WHP and that NOS one OMG it is like a 65-75WHP increase <~~~i need one of those
 
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Pootiestang

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Sleepy1 said:
Hey Hognutz, you forgot the mandatory stickers...each one is worth at least 5hp. And if you put them on the rear window, they become worth 10hp.
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the question then becomes "Is the part on the car?" if it isn't its a lower amount then if the owner actually does have the part.
 
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dangermony

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You guys are crazy!

There is no way that a gear and slicks are NOT going to help you for drag racing. The higher the gear the faster you are going to accelerate. A 2.73 gear is great if your a Lamborghini and want to go 300mph but if your not going through the traps at 5000+ rps then you have too small of a gear. I've got a 3.73 in my 99 2V and i wish i had gone with a larger gear (3.90 or 4.10). Yes you’re going to shift faster, THATS THE POINT! There is only one way that a larger gear will hurt you and that’s if you have junk tires. You’re going to have a harder time getting traction the larger gear you get, that’s pure physics. So if you’re having a harder time getting a good lunch off the line and are spinning hard then do one of three things. One, lower the pressure in your tires, 35psi is great for everyday street driving when your not going to need traction but at the track go down to 25psi. This will put more tire on the pavement and give you better traction, any less then that on radials and your asking for trouble. Two, don’t lunch so hard; if you were dropping the clutch or flashing the trans at 3500rps before your gear then try 2500rpm; I know that that’s seams low but you will see big improvements in you 60 foot. You have got to feel it out; you should not be spinning more then six or seven times if you known how to drive your car. Three, get slicks, there is almost no way in hell that slicks can hurt your times (they can hurt your rear end however). You will be able to lunch much harder with slicks; you do have to give them a really good burn out to get them good and sticky. If you don't have line-locks then don't even try it your not going to get the full effect of the slicks and your just doing to waste money on good tires. Line-locks are like 90 bucks and hot bad to install so just spend the money (plus you can do burn out for as longggg as you want).
The bottom line is that if gears and slicks were not good then people would not use them. How many 9 or 8 second cars do you see with radials or with a 3.27 gear? My point exactly.
 

Graham052

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man, this is really great tech, thanks guys, I really would have been confused next time I went to the track
 

GTvert01

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dangermony said:
There is no way that a gear and slicks are NOT going to help you for drag racing. The higher the gear the faster you are going to accelerate. A 2.73 gear is great if your a Lamborghini and want to go 300mph but if your not going through the traps at 5000+ rps then you have too small of a gear. I've got a 3.73 in my 99 2V and i wish i had gone with a larger gear (3.90 or 4.10). Yes you’re going to shift faster, THATS THE POINT! There is only one way that a larger gear will hurt you and that’s if you have junk tires. You’re going to have a harder time getting traction the larger gear you get, that’s pure physics. So if you’re having a harder time getting a good lunch off the line and are spinning hard then do one of three things. One, lower the pressure in your tires, 35psi is great for everyday street driving when your not going to need traction but at the track go down to 25psi. This will put more tire on the pavement and give you better traction, any less then that on radials and your asking for trouble. Two, don’t lunch so hard; if you were dropping the clutch or flashing the trans at 3500rps before your gear then try 2500rpm; I know that that’s seams low but you will see big improvements in you 60 foot. You have got to feel it out; you should not be spinning more then six or seven times if you known how to drive your car. Three, get slicks, there is almost no way in hell that slicks can hurt your times (they can hurt your rear end however). You will be able to lunch much harder with slicks; you do have to give them a really good burn out to get them good and sticky. If you don't have line-locks then don't even try it your not going to get the full effect of the slicks and your just doing to waste money on good tires. Line-locks are like 90 bucks and hot bad to install so just spend the money (plus you can do burn out for as longggg as you want).
The bottom line is that if gears and slicks were not good then people would not use them. How many 9 or 8 second cars do you see with radials or with a 3.27 gear? My point exactly.
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Can I buy some pot from you?
 
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Sorry about that that last post, I only read the first three posts and was about to lose my mind.

-Peace
 
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