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CarMichael Angelo

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Ha! made you look.

Ordered my A/C system today. I saw this Vintage Air system at the Emearld Coast Cruzin in November, and made it a must have before summer this year. The thing is a cool only unit that'll sit behind my back seat and blow out of two vents surface mounted on the rear package tray.
(or "hat rack" as they call it down here in the south)


Even though I have a back seat, I really can't accomodate a rear seat passenger w/ the goofy roll bar I have, But the thought of being able to freeze the back of someones' head off that sits in the back seat has me rethinking the back seat passenger possibilities.
I like it because I'll be able to run the two lines A/C lines under the floor to the rear and keep the firewall free from the clutter that the factory A/C system causes. I still have the heater/defroster in the factory location, so this will work out good for me. ( I think)
 

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CarMichael Angelo

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A pic of you from your college soccer days no doubt Dave?

You must store up on photo opportunities waiting for me to comment.
 

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That looks like it'll get the job done, although there will be a huge heat load on the system with the placement of the evap. Does the system come pre-charged with refrigerant? It looks like the evaporator is mounted in the trunk compartment while the compressor and condenser remain in the engine bay? Make sure you pressurize the system with nitrogen and leak test all flare fittings with soapy water before charging. I'd also be weary of running refrigerant lines under the carpeting where they could be stepped on and kinked. It could also be an isue of condensation building up on the lines and creating a mold/moisture issue under the carpet. Unless I'm understanding you wrong, and you intend to run the lines outside of the car, under the floor. In that case, insulate them very well and isolate them from vibration.
 

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madmike1157 said:
A pic of you from your college soccer days no doubt Dave?

You must store up on photo opportunities waiting for me to comment.
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I was on Facebook right before logging on here. That was a "laugh of the day" kind of picture from there. I immediately thought of that when I saw your headline.
 

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1991notchbackLX said:
That looks like it'll get the job done, although there will be a huge heat load on the system with the placement of the evap. Does the system come pre-charged with refrigerant? It looks like the evaporator is mounted in the trunk compartment while the compressor and condenser remain in the engine bay? Make sure you pressurize the system with nitrogen and leak test all flare fittings with soapy water before charging. I'd also be weary of running refrigerant lines under the carpeting where they could be stepped on and kinked. It could also be an isue of condensation building up on the lines and creating a mold/moisture issue under the carpet. Unless I'm understanding you wrong, and you intend to run the lines outside of the car, under the floor. In that case, insulate them very well and isolate them from vibration.
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There'll be Aluminum hard lines running under the floor. Vintage air has this coating (like dynamat) that you apply to the suction line to keep the charge as cold as possible. Hopefully, it'll work like it's supposed to and not run the engine too hot. I have an Aluminum Radiator w/ a pretty good fan/shroud set up already, so I'll guess I 'll just have to see how it goes.
 

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Mike...

I saw your interior pics in the other thread and I have a question:

What made you go with this style of AC unit vs. the OEM style? It looks like you have all the vents/plumbing etc for the dash.
 

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Noobz347 said:
Mike...

I saw your interior pics in the other thread and I have a question:

What made you go with this style of AC unit vs. the OEM style? It looks like you have all the vents/plumbing etc for the dash.
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That's my first thought...why not use what's there instead of putting those gaudy looking vents in the back window for the world to see?
 

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85_SS_302_Coupe said:
That's my first thought...why not use what's there instead of putting those gaudy looking vents in the back window for the world to see?
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While the entire heater box is intact, and the heater and all the vents work, the evaporator in the stock location was the problem.
#1. If hooked up, the factory A/C lines were directly blocking the removal of the passenger valve cover.
(this is a stupid 2valve after all)
#2 I think the A/C lines look like ass in the engine compartment.
#3 I agree w/ both of you, the the rear "JC Whitney" looking vents look bogus, I don't intend to use them as they come in the kit. (Thinking I'll flush mount them and let the back glass deflect the cold air,
or, I'll mount the vents somewhere in the quarter trim.) Either way, I won't have those things cluttering up the rear shelf.
 

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Noobz347 said:
Mike...

I saw your interior pics in the other thread and I have a question:

What made you go with this style of AC unit vs. the OEM style? It looks like you have all the vents/plumbing etc for the dash.
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Have u seen the rest of the car!? Every1 wants somthng diff. than the next!
 

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2vNotch said:
Have u seen the rest of the car!? Every1 wants somthng diff. than the next!
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Yes, 2Vn he's seen the rest of the car. He's just wanting to make sure I don't come out of the bathroom w/ toilet paper stuck on my shoe.
(metaphorically speaking of course)
 

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madmike1157 said:
Yes, 2Vn he's seen the rest of the car. He's just wanting to make sure I don't come out of the bathroom w/ toilet paper stuck on my shoe.
(metaphorically speaking of course)
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LOL... that's a great way to put it. My question was simpler than that though... I was thinking maybe you had some sort of plan for a nostalgic look with the A/C. What's more, I had images running through my head of the Mustang A/C system from like 64/65 and was thinking about the feasibility of that 'under-dash' kind of setup in your car. :
 

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Noobz347 said:
LOL... that's a great way to put it. My question was simpler than that though... I was thinking maybe you had some sort of plan for a nostalgic look with the A/C. What's more, I had images running through my head of the Mustang A/C system from like 64/65 and was thinking about the feasibility of that 'under-dash' kind of setup in your car. :
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Naw, nothing like that, I like the console and the way the dash looks/works in the car. Getting rid of the console to install a under dash unit would get me banned from posting here I think.

I Just wanna have air! I plan to drive the snot out of it this summer, and I prefer to keep my balls where they are, rather than sweating them off at Mustang week. .... In Myrtle beach....In July,...In 98 percent Humidity.
 

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Well... so far, everything you've done has turned to gold. Looking forward to your solution.
 
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