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getting the dreaded "click" when its cold. any ideas.

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jrichker

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Here's a checklist:

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral
and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…


Check battery, terminal connections, ground, starter relay switch (also known as solenoid) and
starter in that order. Battery cables with the replacement ends that clamp on the cable with 2 bolts
are a know problem source.

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the
voltage drop across a connection: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem.

See http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103
for help


1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter relay next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out
for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also
known as a starter solenoid.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (red wire) off the starter relay (Looks like it is stuck on a
screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it starts,
the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch
on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.

Typical start circuit...

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss and Stang&2birds.


See http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195963.gif for 88-90
year cars .OR see http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195964.gif
for 91-93 year cars. See http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiB..._us/0900823d/80/1d/db/3c/0900823d801ddb3c.jsp for 94-95
model cars.

6.) The starter may be hung, loosen up the bolts that hold it on, and give it a good whack with a big
hammer. Tighten up the bolts and try again.

7.) If that doesn't work, use a jumper cable from the positive lead on the battery direct to the
starter post where the big wire from the relay connects. If it cranks then, it is the power wire from
the relay gone bad. This will be hard to do, since there isn't much room to do it.

8.) Pull the starter and take it to Autozone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test,
then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.
 

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thank you very much Jricker. im starting to have a feeling that it might not be the battery itself. because after clicking a few times, when it finally DOES start up, it has no trouble cranking, just cranks and fires up like normal. mind you this only happens when its cold outside and the engine is cold.
 

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carbed87 said:
thank you very much Jricker. im starting to have a feeling that it might not be the battery itself. because after clicking a few times, when it finally DOES start up, it has no trouble cranking, just cranks and fires up like normal. mind you this only happens when its cold outside and the engine is cold.
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When it refuses to start, do the voltage drop checks. Corroded or oil soaked connections can do funny things. No bad connections, look at the starter safety interlocks.
 

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Another vote for battery connections still/again. I've been there and done that a few times - it always came down to a negative cable or connection issue.

Good luck.
 

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this is going to sound stupid buy....Coke will clean you battery connections like no other....
 

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ryan218 said:
this is going to sound stupid buy....Coke will clean you battery connections like no other....
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yeah, i've done it before. but they'rre not corroded at all.

anyways, UPDATE. im almost certain now that it's my starter sticking because i got into it today and started going at it again. after like 10-15 clicks lol (only let my fuel pump prime once) it fired up. cranked a little while, but they were strong cranks, so i guess it just took awhile because i haven't started it in so long. but yeah, still have yet to do a checklist, kinda sucks because everythings so hectic right now, but the streets are still kinda bad, so no rush. although im going to see if i can't knock stuff out tomorrow. thanks again for all the help guys:SNSign:
 
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