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9lb302 · Jan 31, 2004

Was just messing around, going to replace my stock balancer...and 4 hours later I'm almost ready to pull the 56k mile motor out of the car!!

Tired of nickel and diming so it's time to go big... here's my thoughts.

Upgrade the BD11 to the XB-1A (can get a kit for cheap) and sell the BD kit.

Was then thinking heads and cam to go along with the XB-1A, but now I'm worried about the bottom end....So, now think I need to pull the motor, stroking or go 306,forging, heads, cam, upgrading the Cobra intake...

Suggestions or thoughts? It's too late to turn back!

FordStang · Jan 31, 2004

So i take it u couldnt get the balancer on?

FordStang · Jan 31, 2004

oh and also i pulled my motor at 59,000 and there wasnt anything wrong, just felt time to upgrade alittle

9lb302 · Jan 31, 2004

Funny you ask, I don't have a 1 inch socket to even take off the old balancer....so on the bench with my blower and everything else sits my new pretty little Pioneer balancer.....

red94fiveo · Jan 31, 2004

I could have sworn my balancer took a 15/16" socket.

94GTLaserRC · Jan 31, 2004

Dude,

What's up with your car???? Im confused

This is part of your sig:

, Stk H/C, Cobra Intake, 9lb PD BD-11a, 65mm TB, , 255lb FP, Adj FP @ 38 lbs, 10:1 FMU, FMS Ceramics, Bassani Hi-Flo X, Borla Cat Back, Built AODE w/Transgo and cooler,

.Mustang Dyno #'s 240RWHP and 261RWTQ
Currently in need of a good tune!

Dont know what your injector size is, but you got a 10:1 FMU, youre running 9PSI (im assuming you have stock 19's). Your car only dynoed 240?

Something is not right there...Did you get A/F ratios on that dyno run?

Anyway..back to the topic...56K miles is kinda low for a new engine!
RC

GTPhreak · Jan 31, 2004

its on a mustang dyno which adds a load based on the vehicle = lower numbers than a dynojet...the dynojet is what most people dyno on and yields higher numbers

FordStang · Jan 31, 2004

so u dont have a socket to take off the balancer. but Do u have all the tools and special tools to remove the engine??

yellow5.0cobra · Feb 1, 2004

LOL thats classic.

Anyhow I assume you have the proper tooling, like an engine hoist(well ya got the thing out didnt ya?), engine stand, torque wrench, feeler guages, model clay(for PTV clearance), piston ring files, bearing clearance tape, hone tool and a micrometer... along with A LOT OF patients?

Anyhow, wish you the best of luck.

Keep us updated.

Venom351R · Feb 1, 2004

94GTLaserRC said:
Dude,

What's up with your car???? Im confused

.Mustang Dyno #'s 240RWHP and 261RWTQ
Currently in need of a good tune! [/I]

Dont know what your injector size is, but you got a 10:1 FMU, youre running 9PSI (im assuming you have stock 19's). Your car only dynoed 240?

Something is not right there...Did you get A/F ratios on that dyno run?
RC

something dosent seem right, I dynoed at 231 and I havent even touched the heads or cam yet.

moneypit94 · Feb 1, 2004

Like stated above it was a Mustang Dyno... His numbers look pretty good FOR A MUSTANG DYNO... I would GUESS those numbers from the Mustang Dyno would yeild something like 330 hp and 350 torque on a Dyno Jet...

Im going to do a search and see if can get a good idea of a percentage difference...

From the searches i did, on average, there seems to be about a 25% decrease from a dyno jet to a mustang dyno...

nunly94gt · Feb 1, 2004

Well i be damned if I ever use a mustang dyno. Makes you feel bad about your car.
So why pull the engine? Replace the balancer and start doing other stuff to the car.

94GTLaserRC · Feb 1, 2004

nunly94gt said:
Well i be damned if I ever use a mustang dyno. Makes you feel bad about your car.
So why pull the engine? Replace the balancer and start doing other stuff to the car.

Look who decided to chime in

RC

GTPhreak · Feb 1, 2004

nunly94gt said:
Well i be damned if I ever use a mustang dyno. Makes you feel bad about your car.
So why pull the engine? Replace the balancer and start doing other stuff to the car.

Its probably actually better for dyno tuning than a standard dynojet. since it gets an accurate load, unlike the dynojet where it is just spinning the weighted drums, you can get more accurate of what the car would be doing on the street. I have heard of people dynotune on a dynojet, then blow the motor first time down the track because it was tuned for the dyno because the load was lower

Down · Feb 2, 2004

Tune on a Mustang Dyno.
Scan results from a dynojet on the web.

That's the way to go

J

9lb302 · Feb 3, 2004

Thanks for the replies, here are my thoughts after the weekend (yes, I have help and the tools available).

My initial thoughts were heads and cam. After thinking long and hard, and spending too much money for something I really just am "settling" for - I changed directions a little and have been wanting to do this since I bought this car 5 years ago...just never had the b@lls to do it.

Now, I would like to freshen the motor a little bit - new Forged pistons, possibly crank and rods (if needed), and completely new top end (heads, cam, intake along with an XB-1A upgrade from the BD). My thoughts are that a stock bottom end will not last too long with H/C/I and 11lbs of boost - so that's why I decided to pull it and freshen it up a bit with some forged internals.

The combo I'm looking at is the TFS H/C/I, 70 or 75TB, with new forged/dished pistons and a bump to 306. Along with the 11lbs of XB1-A - I'm thinking this should put me around 450RWHP?

Let me know what you guys think about the combo and your input on it is appreciated.

link at summit for TFS HCI:

http://store.summitracing.com/defau...mmitpart&searchtype=both&part=tfs-k514-36-350

Big Jay · Feb 3, 2004

Re use the stock crank and rods. Get new pistons and a main cap girdle. Deck the block and do a line hone to the mains with the girdle in place. Have the entire rotating assembly balenced and check all clearences. Get head studs and ARP moly lube for correct torque specs. Do not over torque you will warp the block.

Find a good machine shop to do the work.

Last5.0 · Feb 3, 2004

how exactly is a "line hone" done??

I'm doing pretty much the same thing....started as just a head/cam swap but I ended up pulling the motor. Now while it's out on the stand I'm also doing a main support, windage tray, 7qt pan, SFI balancer, timing chain, steel bellhousing, longtube headers, and a ported lower intake. My motor has 54,xxx

nunly94gt · Feb 6, 2004

94GTLaserRC said:
Look who decided to chime in

RC

I have to do that every now and again.

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