Granada Swap Idea...I'm I wrong?

[XXBULLETSXX]

Ok, I've been watching Ebay for Granada Disc brake kits to do a swap on my 66 fastback. However, after looking at them I started to think that once I buy them I'll probably replace most of what I bought. Example, Ok the spindles I'll keep, they'll need a serious cleaning and paint job before they get anywhere near my car.
But, the rotors all look old and rusted so I'll replace them just because I don't want anything that looks that bad on my car. Not to mention they're probably way old and warped. God knows all the bearings, nuts, and any other crap that wears needs to be brought back into this century by replacing it.
Next on the list, is the calipers. Their 20 years old on some car that some one probably abused. So I'll probably replace them to ensure their safe and good looks.
Lastly, brake lines, I'll want to replace those to ensure their safety.

After all that, what else do I need. I get the spindles and run down to Autozone, Napa, or Advance Auto to get the rest. It would be like my own pay as you go plan making them easier to afford.

THE QUESTION: What am I forgetting? There must be something else to getting these kits from Ebay. Or am I right, get the spindles and buy everything else new. Keep in mind, the way they look is very important to me.
Give me your thoughts guys and gals.

Thanks!

 

[rbohm]

sounds like a plan to me.

 

[bnickel]

you willl also need the distribution block and probably a new master cylinder as well

 

[65fastback2+2]

dont forget that anything prior to 67 the granada swap messes up the suspension

 

[XXBULLETSXX]

dont forget that anything prior to 67 the granada swap messes up the suspension

What the heck do you mean? I've never heard that before. Please explain, it took a long time to get my suspension setup the way I have it and do NOT want to screw that up now.

 

[bnickel]

the geometry of the spindles is different on the granada than the 65-66 stangs. the problem really only seems to present itself with wide sticky tires and larger rims. it does not happen in every case however, so i can't really tell you why, but i can tell you there is enough difference that global west absolutely will recommend that you NOT use their negative roll UCA's with the granada brakes.

 

[XXBULLETSXX]

Hmmm, ok. This might change some things for me.
Well, first question: Is anyone out there running 17X8's in the front with about a 2 1/2" drop (tucking 1/2" of tire) and has done the Granada disc brake conversion?

Second Question: Do the kits out there offered by companies like Mustangs Plus create the same problems that the Granada swap does? I think some of the kits out there use your stock spindles but I've heard that the stock spindles aren't as strong as the Granadas. Is that true, and if it is, does it matter since I will never be racing my stang in any way?

 

[coolblue65]

I have 16x7 front wheels with 225/50s, 620lb lowering coils from Mustangs Plus and I did the shelby drop.

I have Granada brakes. I bought the spindles w/dust shields on ebay and got them to my door for $70. Then I got Granada Rotors, Calipers, Pads, wheel bearings, wheels seals, brake lines,
and dual master cylinder for 296.00. Painted the calipers and cross-drilled the rotors myself.

Looks nice and stop 100X better and no problems with my suspension.

 

[302 coupe]

you need the granada spindles, dust shields, and caliper brackets /bolts. Everything else can be bought new/rebuilt from a parts store. I've never had any weird suspension problems on my 66 as a result of the granada spindles. No need for the distribution block really, just get an adjustable proportioning valve for $40 and you're set. The dist blocks are often dirty inside, plus they don't have a very clean/neat appearance with the assortment of lines that go to it.

About your suspension, 2.5" drop with 17x8's, tucking 1/2" of tire....maybe I don't understand something, but is that even driveable? Can you turn the wheel without it rubbing?

 

[XXBULLETSXX]

Nah, it clears. I've got 225/40/17's in the front with rolled fenders and it just barely clears. And with the 620 springs, the 1 1/8 sway bar, and all urethane bushings it dosen't give much in the turns. With that said, I say no but there was the occasional time when the body would flex, the tires were turned, and I hit just the right bump that it would rub the tires on the fenders. But I think of that more of an unsual thing, like bottoming out on just the right bump or something.
Now speed bumps and entries are an entirely different problem. With some I would scape my exhuast. So I decided to raise it up a little because I didn't want to scrape on anything and I was so worried about scraping I wasn't driving the car anymore. I just can't own a trailer queen, so I decided even though I liked it down low I would bring it back up about an 1" in the front. It still looks cool, maybe not as cool, but I'm not affraid to drive it now and that means a lot.
If you like I can give you some before and after pictures to check out. Just say the word.

 

[302 coupe]

I looked at your cardomain site, looks good

 

[XXBULLETSXX]

I looked at your cardomain site, looks good

Man do I need to update that site with some current pictures. I haven't touched that site in months. I always forget about it. I've got a lot of new pictures too, I'll try to get to it soon.

But thanks for the complements!

 

[rob289c]

What is the best way to convert to power brakes after the disc brake swap? What master cylinder/booster/ brake pedal is the easiest way to do this?

 

[67MustangManiac]

Also remember that if you get the whole setup you can use the old calipers as a core and save a few bucks!

I miss the dancing banana!!!

Maniac!

 

[fess40]

Don't forget about the different tie-rod sizes. Mine came from a '78 Granada. I've never had any suspension issues either.