Headers!

SetofAces

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Ok, so I'm in my project balls deep at this point (I didn't just overshoot my budget, I'm now in debt because of my car and it isn't even running again yet!); but it seems to be missing one thing: headers. OK, maybe I need a lot of other things too, but aside from the heads, the only other common bolt-on upgrade item I haven't sketched into my build yet are headers.

My car: 89 LX (non-HO motor) 5 speed, with the following parts already obtained or on their way in the mail: 3.5" powerpipe (yes I know it's overkill, but it was about the same price as an "eBay special" CAI), 94-95 70mm MAF w/ the flange cut off, PP 70mm TB & EGR spacer, Exploder upper and lower, Exploder injectors, E7's w/ the thermactor bumps ground off and cheap valve job (came that way), e303 cam, Bassani x-pipe, flowmaster dumps (no tail pipe).

Near as I can tell, the headers that are on it are stock mustang units (despite the crappy motor swap); I dunno maybe these were also stock on the Crown Vic or whatever car the motor came from.

The 10 quid question: just how much of a bottleneck are my stock headers really? I've heard that they're good up to 275 hp or so, and I don't think my combo will really be pushing that, not quite anyways. Once debts are cleared and I'm in the black again (in a couple months) I'll be hunting for gt40 heads anyways, so of course headers will be a waste if I go with P heads as I'll need new ones anyways. If memory serves, though, P heads aren't smog-legal, and while this isn't a huge concern almost everything else in my combo is so I may as well keep it that way.

I found some cheap headers on eBay ($115 shipped) that I'm curious about. I've always heard that cheap headers don't last, they warp etc. but these ones have 3/8" flanges like the more expensive ones and are chrome plated.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=330327481263

So should I even consider going with these, or something like them (i.e. CHEAP)? Just how much am I giving up with the stockers? And one other thing, would they be any easier to instal now, during my h/c/i swap? Or should I just wait until I can afford better units and get them when I upgrade the heads?
 
I'd wait till you can get some good ones, and see what heads you are getting. If you get the cheap ones, well the saying goes, you get what you pay for. They would just end up being garbage or so in no time at all and then you will have to buy another set anyway :shrug:
 
I'd wait till you can get some good ones, and see what heads you are getting. If you get the cheap ones, well the saying goes, you get what you pay for. They would just end up being garbage or so in no time at all and then you will have to buy another set anyway :shrug:

Yeah I think you're right, I've just got the UPGRADE EVERYTHING NOW bug; any idea how much the stock headers will hold me back performance-wise, though? I was thinking maybe I could pull 260+ hp from my setup, but then maybe I'm being a bit optimistic :shrug: