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Electrical Help identifying rogue wire

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Monkeybutt2000

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93 Cobra, hack mechanic attempted to repair a no start condition. Replaced plug on TFI, and this silver wire with no sheathing was just layin
 

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It sorta looks like the "drain wire" shield from the TFI harness. The shield is a foil wrapping. The bare wire contacts the foil & is used to make the connection at the ends. It's a complicated harness & unless you are Mil-spec rated in harness fabrication, it will make no sense. The harness in question is double shielded. Probably only one guy in the Ford electrical design department understood it.
 
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Blown88GT said:
It sorta looks like the "drain wire" shield from the TFI harness. The shield is a foil wrapping. The bare wire contacts the foil & is used to make the connection at the ends. It's a complicated harness & unless you are Mil-spec rated in harness fabrication, it will make no sense. The harness in question is double shielded. Probably only one guy in the Ford electrical design department understood it.
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You said it "makes the connection at the ends". So where does this connect to?
 

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It should be inside the harness that connects to the TFI. Outside the harness will not work.
Go to page 22 (or 25 at the black bar at the bottom). See G110, just to the left of the 22k ohm resistor at the bottom of the page?
That's the drain wire. The dotted oval circle is the foil shield the surrounds the wires in the harness.
Notice that there is a connection only at one end of the harness. NOT at the TFI end but close to the EEC. The schematic is not a physical so can't tell you exactly where it belongs without diagnosing a good harness.
In your picture, I can see the wires coming from the TFI. The drain wire goes with them but it looks like the foil overwrap & the tape is gone.
You can redo it, here's how. You only wrap the 3 wires shown in the schematic, DB, Y/LG, BK/O

Tape Wrapping Wire & Cable Harnesses Guide

This tape wrapping wire and cable harnesses guide covers generic methods for applying insulating, thermal or EMI tape materials which can be helically wound around a wire or cable bundle.
www.zippertubing.com

1988 Mustang Electrical & Vacuum Troubleshooting Guide (EVTM)

File is too large to upload. Here is link to it on my Google Drive. View: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1on5czXKmpETzxUggWTGtoUuVkJT2UUxN
www.stangnet.com

The single page from the EVTM is attached.
 

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Blown88GT said:
It should be inside the harness that connects to the TFI. Outside the harness will not work.
Go to page 22 (or 25 at the black bar at the bottom). See G110, just to the left of the 22k ohm resistor at the bottom of the page?
That's the drain wire. The dotted oval circle is the foil shield the surrounds the wires in the harness.
Notice that there is a connection only at one end of the harness. NOT at the TFI end but close to the EEC. The schematic is not a physical so can't tell you exactly where it belongs without diagnosing a good harness.
In your picture, I can see the wires coming from the TFI. The drain wire goes with them but it looks like the foil overwrap & the tape is gone.
You can redo it, here's how. You only wrap the 3 wires shown in the schematic, DB, Y/LG, BK/O

Tape Wrapping Wire & Cable Harnesses Guide

This tape wrapping wire and cable harnesses guide covers generic methods for applying insulating, thermal or EMI tape materials which can be helically wound around a wire or cable bundle.
www.zippertubing.com

1988 Mustang Electrical & Vacuum Troubleshooting Guide (EVTM)

File is too large to upload. Here is link to it on my Google Drive. View: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1on5czXKmpETzxUggWTGtoUuVkJT2UUxN
www.stangnet.com

The single page from the EVTM is attached.
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Well, got everything hooked up but it's back to the original problem. Will start another thread.
 

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Why start another thread? So members can ask the same questions over again?
Just tell us what the problem is now here and those that have been following along and know what has been done can offer informed responses.
 
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General karthief said:
Why start another thread? So members can ask the same questions over again?
Just tell us what the problem is now here and those that have been following along and know what has been done can offer informed responses.
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Because it's a completely different issue??
 

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Ok, carry on, don't mind me, just pass'n through
 
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