1fast03pony said:wouldnt be doin for the looks
You're not giving the OEM intake much credit. Yeah it may not be as pretty as the KB unit (not that you ever see their lower anyway), but it will still support over 600rwhp. Which is nearly 100-more than I've ever seen any 1.7L KB produce?BuffaloZone said:The KB design (that lets you throw the OEM plastic intake in the dumpster) is just a bonus.
Gearbanger 101 said:You're not giving the OEM intake much credit.
Yeah it may not be as pretty as the KB unit (not that you ever see their lower anyway)
but it will still support over 600rwhp.
Which is nearly 100-more than I've ever seen any 1.7L KB produce?
And now that they've got the aluminum cross over built in, they're as reliable as an OEM piece should be.
BuffaloZone said:I'm doin' it because KB is one of the best, maybe even the best blower on the market for a street mustang that wants that "Big Block" low end torque and power.
BuffaloZone said:The KB design (that lets you throw the OEM plastic intake in the dumpster) is just a bonus.
.....I know there's a point in there somewhere in reference to my statement of you not giving the OEM intake much credit.....but I'm sorry I've failed to find it?BuffaloZone said:How many people have made nasty postings about the "POS intake" (etc...) in the past? I wonder?
You're under the impression that we all don't like the look of the stock intake? Plenty of "world class" S/C's on the market the do it just as well, for less than the KB and still retain the factory parts. You could always paint the stock lower intake silver if it made you feel any better.BuffaloZone said:That's the whole point, duh - add a world-class SC and clean up the OEM mess at the same time. It's a win-win.
I'm not pretending anything?BuffaloZone said:You're pretending that the 1.7 is the only KB blower that you can buy for the Mustang? Or are you pretending that other bigger KB blowers still use the OEM plastic intake when you install the blower?
Before this gets any further, lets get one thing strait. Kenne Bell didn't decide to replace the plastic manifold because it was inferior. Kenne Bell had no choice but to design their own manifold because for one, their kit wouldn't work with the OEM and for another they needed to use the aluminum manifold because their big 40lb twin crew would obliterate any plastic manifold they designed with the constant strain, stress and torqueing of it being under load all of the time. It wasn't a quality issue that made them go with the aluminum unit, it was a durability issue because a positive displacement blower mounted on top of anything else would be a disaster waiting to happen. Trust me, if Kenne Bell could have gotten away with running a less prone to heat soak, smoother composite lower over a rough cast aluminum one, they would have! Name one company that builds a plastic lower for any positive displacement blower and I'll eat my hat!BuffaloZone said:Kenne Bell decided to shy away from using a plastic manifold. I like that.
1fast03pony said:
how do you like the vortech? Im leaning toward a centri
2001sleeper said:i am happy with my t-trim, the KB 2.2 is awesome, but it was way out of my price range. it all depends on what your goals and what best suits an individual. KB is not the best for everything blower.
Gearbanger 101 said:.....I know there's a point in there somewhere in reference to my statement of you not giving the OEM intake much credit.....but I'm sorry I've failed to find it?
You're under the impression that we all don't like the look of the stock intake?
Plenty of "world class" S/C's on the market the do it just as well, for less than the KB and still retain the factory parts.
You could always paint the stock lower intake silver if it made you feel any better.
I'm not pretending anything?
The blowers you were just drooling over were 1.7's, so that's the example I used.
Sure, you can go with the 2.2L kit if you'd like
but for a guy wanting in the 350-500rwhp range, the 2.2L is a lot of overkill.
Oh...and don't forget the $10,000.00 you're going to have into it before all is said and done. For that price you could run any of the popular centies, with an aftermarket aluminum manifold if that's all you care about seeing with a blower package and still come out thousands less in price.
Before this gets any further, lets get one thing strait.
Kenne Bell didn't decide to replace the plastic manifold because it was inferior. Kenne Bell had no choice but to design their own manifold because for one, their kit wouldn't work with the OEM and for another they needed to use the aluminum manifold because their big 40lb twin crew would obliterate any plastic manifold they designed with the constant strain, stress and torqueing of it being under load all of the time. It wasn't a quality issue that made them go with the aluminum unit, it was a durability issue because a positive displacement blower mounted on top of anything else would be a disaster waiting to happen. Trust me, if Kenne Bell could have gotten away with running a less prone to heat soak, smoother composite lower over a rough cast aluminum one, they would have! Name one company that builds a plastic lower for any positive displacement blower and I'll eat my hat!
A Centrifugal supercharger...<snip>
1fast03pony said:agreed, but its the best at what it does
every blower is different for different applications
i like the mid-high end pull, without the engine falling flat. Centri's are widely known for this mid-high end pull
so trash the stock intake
and buy a RR intake or P-51 with the centri. its only a grand or so more, and by then youll still be under the price of the KB
and looks should really be the last concern unless youre entering your car in shows-- given, yeah you dotn want it to look like ****. In my opinion, centris look good even with the stocker intake.
Not enough open minds on this board, that's the problem.02LaserRed2V said:Why do all threads topics involving blowers always end up becoming pissing matches?
BuffaloZone said:After driving my low horsepower N/A car for 35,000 miles I don't think I'll being worrying about too many flat spots from my 9psi (actually 10psi) IC KB.../
BuffaloZone said:Here's the deal...I don't want to come in under the KB price. Funny how so many car manufacturers shy away from installing the cheaper centrifugal superchargers on their cars. Perhaps they want to steer clear from the cluttered after-market after-thought look?
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