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Help quick....I took my driver seat out now no start?

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TrophyHead

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Should these cars start without a drivers seat?

I'm in the middle of a bunch of projects and would like to start it up. Thanks
 

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Thats crazy. There must be something else somewhere that is not right. I had my driver's side seat out for over a month and everytime I got in the car to move it, it started right up, no problem.. You have some other problem. Hope this helps.
 
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The fuel pump relay is underneath the seat. Make sure you didnt disconnect it by mistake.
 

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You may have disconnected or damaged the fuel pump power relay.
 

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TrophyHead said:
Should these cars start without a drivers seat?
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+1 for the relay
 

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allrighty.....I hear the fuel pump priming. Maybe my fat ass broke while putting in the brake booster.

edit: it's not the relay. I'll have to go investagate some more.
 

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Because you've had your hand in many parts of the cookie jar, JRichker might be nice enough to post his no start checklist so you can choose what applies to you (and what you've touched) and figure it out.

Good luck.
 

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I've read his cranks fine but no start checklist. I've mastered that a couple months ago.

Does he have a dosent crank at all checklist. Battery is jucied up. The starter is not engaging at all. I hear the fuel pump. EEC relay is good. Coil is good. TFI is new so I assume it's good. PIP sensor is new. Maybe a bad computer?

How do I check fuel pressure without the car running? I can't right?

I havent really checked for spark yet.
 

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Have you tried jumping the relay on the fender? Make sure your car is in park first! Don't ask me how I know.
 

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Just saw you were a manual guy, make sure shes in neutral.
 

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Have you tried jumping the relay on the fender? Make sure your car is in park first! Don't ask me how I know.
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Actually I just did this. I took the little wire off the top. And jumped the two with a wrench.
Started right up. Is this telling me my ignition realy is toast? Something with my ignition isnt right.
 

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Yeah, turn the key and check for voltage at the wire, if it is present, the relay is done, which it most likely is.
 

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JRichker does have a no crank checklist.

If you were able to touch the small wire (that slides onto the solenoid at the 12 o'clock position) to the battery lug and the engine turned over, the solenoid WORKS.

Look for an issue in the starter interlock circuit. The place to start is the clutch safety switch.

Good luck.
 

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Here's a checklist:

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…

Check battery, terminal connections, ground, starter relay switch (also known as solenoid) and starter in that order.

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem.
See http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103 for help


1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter relay next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (red wire) off the starter relay (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it starts, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.
Typical start circuit...



See http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195963.gif for 88-90 year cars .OR see http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195964.gif for 91-93 year cars. See http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiB..._us/0900823d/80/1d/db/3c/0900823d801ddb3c.jsp for 94-95 model cars.

6.) The starter may be hung, loosen up the bolts that hold it on, and give it a good whack with a big hammer. Tighten up the bolts and try again.

7.) If that doesn't work, use a jumper cable from the positive lead on the battery direct to the starter post where the big wire from the relay connects. If it cranks then, it is the power wire from the relay gone bad. This will be hard to do, since there isn't much room to do it.

8.) Pull the starter and take it to Autozone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.
 

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Thanks JR. I'll check it out tomorrow.
 
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