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Hi all, noob here needing some help
I just bought a QuickJack system and I want to lift my 1988 4 cylinder up for the first time.
I watched Danny Johnson's Garage video that explained the lift points ( View: https://youtu.be/mKy1rNRRMRk
) but I got these metal plates that go under the front subframe and behind the floor panel on the torque box. Can someone confirm here if these are the places to put the rubber spacer blocks?
 

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90sickfox

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Looks like a convertible. Yes you can put the lift blocks there.
 
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gaprabbit

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90sickfox said:
Looks like a convertible. Yes you can put the lift blocks there.
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A convertible she is! Good eye and thank you.
 

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You can also use the spotwelds where the factory jack goes
Use whatever is easiest at the time
 

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manicmechanic007 said:
You can also use the spotwelds where the factory jack goes
Use whatever is easiest at the time
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I think that would not be a good idea with a common floor jack or the flat pads on a post lift, they tend to fold over unless the deep slotted pads are used.
 
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Once they fold over you may just as well use them as unfold them and not
 

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manicmechanic007 said:
Once they fold over you may just as well use them as unfold them and not
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Once they fold over, the structural integrity is lost and you run the risk of damage if jacking from here. Often times, jacking from this spot even with the pinch welds intact will cause the front fender to bow out slightly causing a large gap between the fender/door seam. The structural integrity of this location as a jack point depends on this pinch weld maintaining it's factory shape perpendicular to the load.

I would honestly recommend not jacking from here at all
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
I would honestly recommend not jacking from here at all
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Agreed. When i was a teenager i jacked the car up from all the wrong spots.
Certainly will cause fender alignment issues.
You will even bend up the frame rails.

IMO, get subframe connectors and jacking rails. Jack the car up from those locations.
 
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I will still be using the factory lift points which are the spot welds
Look in your owners manual at where the jack goes and quit whining
 

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Nobody’s whining. Do whatever you want. I stick by my statement
 
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I'm with the others. I've had those spots fold. If the factory jack isn't on flat ground it'll bend the too. One of the fist things I learned was not to use the pinch welds for anything other than the factory jack on flat ground.
 

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We have all had them fold which mashes the fenders
My 69 has the subframe bent up a bit from hoisting over the years
Leave yours on the ground if you want
The factory lift points (the spotwelds) are there for a reason
I will still use them most of the time
 

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manicmechanic007 said:
I will still use them most of the time
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Here is a perfect opportunity to agree to disagree.
Now be honest, how many of us have used the factory jack?
Those things are death and destruction waiting to happen.
One time was all I needed.
 
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My lift has rubber pads so I used to lift on the front and rear subframe with no issue. After I installed the MM full length subframe connectors, I lift on those at the front and rear with no issue, it's very solid.

If my lift didn't have rubber pads I'd use a small block of wood between the lift and the subframe connector to protect the subframe connector.

To each their own.
 
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