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gneal · Jul 31, 2006

Ok, I bought the Xenon side scoops for my car a few months back. The body shop I took it to put them on just like the instructions said using the 3m tape. Unfortunately, due to the heat here(I live in Oklahoma), the 3m tape started to break down and the scoops were close to falling off.
I took them back and had them actually glue them on. When I got the car back the one on the passenger side was pushed too far forward and caused the door to catch on it, almost pulling it off. Took it back for the third time this past week, went out of town for the weekend, and when I got back the scoop was starting to come off again!!!

Basically what I need is a body shop, individual, anyone in Oklahoma that has the knowledge or expertise dealing with this sort of thing. I trust the body shop I took them to to do normal work if my car gets into an accident but they obviously do not know how to work with aftermarket parts such as these. I'm past the point of frustration here and I realize if I lived somewhere like California there are probably plenty of places that could help, but I feel like there probably aren't many places here that are equipped with the knowledge needed to put these on correctly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

anthony05gt · Jul 31, 2006

I have them on my car. All of the 2 sided tape has to come off of the scoops which is a real pain in the ass. Just get it extremely clean. You'll need adhesion promoter which comes in little packs. You can get one from any body shop. Make sure the area on the car where they stick is cleaned with prep solvent or alcohol. The adhesion promoter pad should be wiped on the areas of the scoop where the tape goes only, not on the car's paint. Cut the 2 sided tape to fit around the scoop. They get 4 strips on the front edge and one strip the rest of the way around. Set the scoops in the hot sun for a while then immediately take the hot scoop to where the car is (in the shade or garage). Place the scoop on the car and hold it tightly against the car concentrating on any areas that may not want to fit the contour of the vehicle. Continue to hold the scoop until it cools off. You may want to leave a couple of gaps along the bottom strip of tape to allow any water to drain that might get behind the scoop.

By the way, the scoops should be 2-7/8" from the plastic window trim.

rahp · Aug 3, 2006

I agree, the most important step is to get any old wax and grease or any other contaminates off of the area that the tape is to adhere to. PPG DX330 wax and grease remover works great for this (it is also fantastic at removing bugs and other things from your paint without harming the paint). I use the 3M two sided tape to hold on ground effects and mouldings here in Georgia and have not had a single problem in the 17 years I have been doing paint and body.

Steel · Aug 4, 2006

Imo the best would be 3M adhesive 9472 or 7955 . I use the former on my boat in the worst enviro : moist/heat/salt and no problrm at all .
It is thin (125 microns) and after 72 hours you'll have to demolish the car to take the piece off .
In case , you can remove it with lot of alcohol and patience .

gneal · Aug 7, 2006

Steel said:
Imo the best would be 3M adhesive 9472 or 7955 . I use the former on my boat in the worst enviro : moist/heat/salt and no problrm at all .
It is thin (125 microns) and after 72 hours you'll have to demolish the car to take the piece off .
In case , you can remove it with lot of alcohol and patience .

Where can I get some of this 3M adhesive?

Thanks

gneal · Aug 7, 2006

rahp said:
I agree, the most important step is to get any old wax and grease or any other contaminates off of the area that the tape is to adhere to. PPG DX330 wax and grease remover works great for this (it is also fantastic at removing bugs and other things from your paint without harming the paint). I use the 3M two sided tape to hold on ground effects and mouldings here in Georgia and have not had a single problem in the 17 years I have been doing paint and body.

Where can I get some this remover?

anthony05gt · Aug 7, 2006

You can get a roll of 3M 2 sided tape at any auto paint supply house. Get the 1/2" wide stuff. When I removed the tape from my scoops I used some lighter fluid and good old fashioned elbow grease. I had to keep rolling my thumb across the tape to kind of peel it off. Believe me, it ain't easy, but you can do it. Just make sure the tape is completely off, then clean the surface with alcohol or prep solvent. Don't forget to wipe the area with an adhesion promoter pad prior to installing the new tape. Place the scoops up to the window to test fit them and mark the corners with tape or a grease pencil so when you actually stick them on there's no guesswork. Remember the scoops are supposed to be 2 7/8" from the plastic window trim by the door.

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