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high idle...unplugged IAC w/ no change

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chaos254

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Just noticed the other week that my car was idling high, ~ 1200-1500rpms. I took it for a drive and when I got back I let it idle for a bit and pulled the IAC connector. The idle did NOT go down, does this mean it is my TPS?

Nothing has changed on my car... the idle screws have never been messed with, etc.
 

HISSIN50

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If you shut the car off and restart it, does it idle normally for awhile?
 

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if you suspect you tps, check your tps voltage....just under 1.0V is normal at idle.

but i would suspect your iac valve being stuck open slightly
 

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Try resetting your idle with the following procedure. If your idle problem is NOT being caused by a bad part or vacuum leak then I have never seen this not fix the problem!

Begin with a cold vehicle. The idea here is to get the car to a firm cold idle with enough air bleed capacity left in the idle circuit for IAC adjustment.

The idle stop should be set first. Back out the idle stop screw, away from the bell crank arm, until about 1/2 turn past the point where it no longer makes contact (blade fully closed). Using a 0.010" feeler gauge, tighten until gauge just drags between screw and bell crank arm. Remove feeler gauge. Tighten screw exactly 1 1/2 turns. If the screw is very loose, put a drop of loc-tite or silicone on it, so it doesn't work out of adjustment.

Now remove the connector to the Idle Air Controller (IAC) just on the other side of the throttle body. Start the car and allow vehicle to warm for 2 minutes. Give a small "blip" to let it settle. If it is having a hard time staying running you may have to get an assistant until you can get to the front of the car. Now open or close the air bleed screw (CCW opens) next to the IAC until the car idles at 575 to 600 rpm. For guys with aftermarket cams and an EEC tuner, you might want to idle a bit more briskly, say 650 to 675.

Obviously, this rpm range is by what the car and driver wants...IE, no set idle speed, whatever works for YOU.

Turn off the car. Now count the number of turns clockwise to close on the idle air bleed screw. If it falls between 1/2 and 2, it's okay, now reverse it out the same number of turns. Log the number somewhere in case you need it for the future. Reconnect the IAC. You are done.

If the air bleed screw is above 2 turns, it's a good idea to tighten the idle stop screw another 1/2 turn, and then repeat the idle setting. If it is below 1/2 turn, then loosen the idle stop screw by 1/4 to 1/2 a turn, and repeat the idle setting. Be sure to put another drop of silicone RTV on the stop screw if it was disturbed. Reconnect the IAC.

Now remember we adjusted the set screw on the throttle body. That means that the voltage reading from the TPS sensor has changed. It should read between .96 and .99 volts. Anything outside of that range will cause all sorts of issues including misfires and rough idle.

you will have to back probe the TPS connector. With the connector attached to the TPS stick a paper clip into the rubber boot on the connector where the top and middle wires go into the connector. The rubber is very flexible the paper clip will slide in between the rubber and the wire.

Set your multimeter to volts. Turn ignition to ON. Then place your multimeter leads on the metal pins. If it comes up as a negative that is okay as long as you are -.96 to -.99. If you get this reading then great you are done and hopefully your issues are gone. If not proceed to step 9

This is where and extra pair of hands come in handy. Using a large screw driver you will need to loosen the bolts that hold the TPS. DO NOT USE A SCREWDRIVER THAT IS TOO SMALL BECAUSE YOU WILL STRIP THE BOLTS. They probably will be really tight so you have to really lean on the screwdriver and use some finesse.

Once the bolts are loose you will need to move the TPS up or down and continue to read the voltage. Once you get it to the desired setting you can re-tighten the bolts. What I do is I find .97 and then as carefully as possible I tighten the TPS down. what will happen is the voltage will change usually to .96 or .98 but that it okay. Once you are done with this manually open the throttle body a few times and close it then reread the voltage and make sure it is still within our desired range.

Depending upon how loose your set screw was you might want to cover it in RTV to hold your setting. At this point you have CORRECTLY reset you idle.


If this does not work and your TPS voltage was correct then replace your IAC (with an oem one) and redo this procedure.
 

chaos254

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So I really havent had time to mess with it but I did check to see if it ever idles normal, which it does not. No matter what, my idle is always 1200-1500 even when I unplug the IAC. I'm going to check the tps voltage and see what I find.

So it is possible that my IAC is stuck open, therefore pulling the IAC connector would not make a difference. Is this right?
 

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If unplugging your IAC doesn't change anything, I suspect you have an enourmous vacuum leak, or your throttle body is jamming. When you unplug the IAC, the engine shouldn't even run.

Kurt
 

Chythar

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revhead347 said:
If unplugging your IAC doesn't change anything, I suspect you have an enourmous vacuum leak, or your throttle body is jamming. When you unplug the IAC, the engine shouldn't even run.

Kurt
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Actually, the IAC part is not correct. The IAC is there to let extra air in the engine when it's under load at idle, like when you have the A/C running. It has no other purpose that I know of. Now, if the IAC was jammed open the engine would likely keep accelerating no matter what speed you were at. I had my IAC go bad and my Stang would keep accelerating a little bit no matter what I did.

If the idle reset doesn't work, definitely check for vacuum leaks.
 

hotcobra03

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My 03 cobra did something like that.changed and cleaned everthing .no help. Ended up a bad throttle body.what was odd or sign?if i held throttle back by hand idle would go down till you try normally .
 
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