Holley systeMax ll engine upgrade

ironmedic · Jul 22, 2004

i have always liked trickflow so i intend on trying their stuff.

what is in this kit of theirs other than H/C/I? it doesnt have a viewing link to tell u more about it

nightrider50 · Jul 22, 2004

I just ordered my trick flow kit today from summit after my first time at the track last night. the *****ty times inspired me to order the kit today. it was $2082.59 shipped with a timing chain gasket, (i also switched out the silver upper manifold and valve covers for the black). in the kit there is...
-TW heads
-Street manifold
-Stage one cam
-Valve covers
-Head Bolts
-Hardened Push rods
-Timing chain set
-TF 1.6 RR
-TF gasket kit
And i hope there is instructions...

00 Red SS · Jul 22, 2004

The trickflow kit has it all good gaskets and valve covers and you can pick the intake to go with it. Im going straight for AFR's for my 331 otherwise id order the trickflow kit.

silver87 · Jul 23, 2004

Does anyone have this set up on thier car, and if so what does it run at the track?

89CopCoupe · Jul 23, 2004

I've read from numerous sources that the Holley heads will burn oil due to guides being worn from valvetrain geometry

Plus I've heard their intake weighs a ton

CManT1914 · Jul 23, 2004

nightrider50 said:
I just ordered my trick flow kit today from summit after my first time at the track last night. the *****ty times inspired me to order the kit today. QUOTE]

What times did you run?

nightrider50 · Jul 23, 2004

read that again very closely Cman...
Ill get back to u guys in a couple weeks when i get the kit installed and take it to the track

CManT1914 · Jul 23, 2004

nightrider50 said:
read that again very closely Cman...
Ill get back to u guys in a couple weeks when i get the kit installed and take it to the track

All you said was ****ty times, what were they? Did I just completely miss something?

nightrider50 · Jul 23, 2004

lol oh sorry i was thinkin u meant with the kit in. my bad man. yea i hit a 14.82 spinning all the way thru first. when i was driving home on the freeway all my damn timeslips blew out the window with my $10bill and my ticket! . but i was very dissapointed with my times. i think it was 14.82 @95.__. but my 60 foot times were ugly! im going to the track once more before i do the HCI install. hopefully ill do some suspension too while the car is out of service.

93quickvert · Jul 29, 2004

Daggar said:
I'm not sure what kit you're all taking about. The only "kits" offered on their website are for Chevrolet. Great idea though. It would help having to do the whole piston to valve clearance check if they offered some sort of package and knew exactly what years it were a bolt on for.

Look in the new summit... it's not in the 5.0/4.6 section though, it's in the middle of the bood

Killercanary · Jul 29, 2004

My dad runs the kit on his 91GT. His car ran 13.6 at 99mph. We added the kit with the "old" holley cam (they have revised it, plus it is available to the best of my knowledge with an emissions legal cam now) and it ran a 12.6 at 107mph. He then had an FTI cam installed, and had Ed clean up the heads and intake. Best time to date far has been a 11.95 at 115mph at 3350lbs. All in all its a decent kit, and he's had it for over 3years and hasn't had any valvetrain issues. There was porblems when brodix was doing the heads for holley, but when they switched to using AFR, the problems went away as far as I know. Rick91GT also ran this kit.

silver87 · Aug 8, 2004

Nightrider have you had the parts installed yet, and if so what were your times?

Rick 91GT · Aug 8, 2004

Killercanary said:
My dad runs the kit on his 91GT. His car ran 13.6 at 99mph. We added the kit with the "old" holley cam (they have revised it, plus it is available to the best of my knowledge with an emissions legal cam now) and it ran a 12.6 at 107mph. He then had an FTI cam installed, and had Ed clean up the heads and intake. Best time to date far has been a 11.95 at 115mph at 3350lbs. All in all its a decent kit, and he's had it for over 3years and hasn't had any valvetrain issues. There was porblems when brodix was doing the heads for holley, but when they switched to using AFR, the problems went away as far as I know. Rick91GT also ran this kit.

Right on Paul...

The head issues are very old news so many things have changed over the last 4-5 years since it came out, the cam has been revised a few different times and there is a 50 state EMISSONS legal cam available.

Out of the box kit with bad heads went 12.6 @ 108.

The holley kit with a AFM cam yeilded me 11.8's @ 116mph NA with a 8.8:1comp 302, stock bottom end, car weighed 3300pounds, all times on 26" x 11.5" ET STREETS. I think the car would have went 50's @118 with some 4:30's that the cam was ground for.

Can you build packages to make more power, yes but it is a nice complete kit that yeilds very good results.

nightrider50 · Aug 12, 2004

silver87 said:
Nightrider have you had the parts installed yet, and if so what were your times?

im workin on installing the kit. im 6 days into the project. (this is the first time ive ever done anything like this, so its goin nice n slow). i hope i will have it all done and tuned by next wednesday so i can take it to the track. ill get my times up on here after i go.

silver87 · Aug 12, 2004

good to hear, and good luck on the install

93-331-29psi · Aug 12, 2004

Aren't Trickflow heads proprietary in that you have to use all trickflow components?

Rick 91GT · Aug 12, 2004

93-331-29psi said:
Aren't Trickflow heads proprietary in that you have to use all trickflow components?

Nope...

You do need a piston made for the Twisted valve if you go to a large cam...

FiveO · Aug 13, 2004

i think the trickflow package is a better deal...and you can find it in summit on page 141 upper right hand corner

or online www.summitracing.com

part# tfs-k514-350-370 and tfs-k514-360-350

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