How can I get around the shift retard?

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ON 94-95 cars with a t-5 the eec has a retard built in to make the tranies live longer. Has anyone looked under the dash at the different clutch petal switches? Do you think I can just un plug a sensor that goes back to the computer?

 

HISSIN50

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No need for name calling.

AFAIK, the tip-in retard comes via the TPS and other sensors - not the clutch pedal.

A TwEECer, chip, etc can take care of it, as will running locked out timing.

The tuning guys will know more. Good luck.

 

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You can try finding a ford racing extender. I think they cost $200-300. or you can get a tweecer or chip for not that much more.

 

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You can always power shift.

Then again you said t-5.

Gotta Pro or Self tune.

Grady

 

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Everything listed above is correct. I have decreased mine with my EEC Tuner, and as Hissin and Grady said it can be removed too by powershifting or removing the spout and locking down the distributor at full timing at the track. In doing so you take away the computers ability to alter and change the timing advance/retard during the run. I've always been told that the EEC uses the TPS as its only reference to determine if a shift has been made, and thus the reason why powershifting is supposed to remove it.

 

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I have a FMS extender for sale. Takes care of that and A/F, etc. Great piece.

 

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Killercanary said:

I've always been told that the EEC uses the TPS as its only reference to determine if a shift has been made, and thus the reason why powershifting is supposed to remove it.

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I am sure you are right Paul. I had a thought that another sensor (VSS perhaps) was involved, but upon reflection, I cant think of why it would be. What you said makes perfect sense.

 

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Yep, basically just to confirm what others have already mentioned, a chip or twEECer can remove it real easily. Powershifting should work, but do you love your tranny? I wouldn't recommend running around with locked out timing all the time on the street, but at the track I can't see it hurting. Just me though, I know some guys do it all the time.

 

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Ask your boss for a different shift

(couldn't resist)

 

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HISSIN50 said:

AFAIK, the tip-in retard comes via the TPS and other sensors - not the clutch pedal.

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As usual, the WIZARD is right on the money

The retard is actually a "tip in retard" so that means ........................

Its all about the pedal on the right and has nothing to do with the left one.

If you want more datails, I laid it all out on my site on the Tuning Page or search this forum using my name. I've typed all that stuff more than once and I just ain't gonna do it again, lol.

Grady

 

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final5-0 said:

If you want more datails, I laid it all out on my site on the Tuning Page or search this forum using my name. I've typed all that stuff more than once and I just ain't gonna do it again, lol.

Grady

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*cough* LAZY!! *cough*

Stopped saying later huh? Getting too old for those young sayings?

 

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Who are you calling a retard!!! Sorry, couldn't resist either in light of recent threads. Bowing out now.