Hurst vs. MGW? and Progammers...

Wind-Farmer · Sep 9, 2008

What is the difference between the two? Can I install them with the stock handle, make it look exactly how it is now?

I have never had a manual car before, so I have no idea what a short throw feels like or ... pretty much can only imagine.

Which is better, hurst or MGW...I have heard MGW is smoother? So it takes out the "notchiness" I feel from the stock shifter?

And,

OK, since I'm a "noob" to the whole modifying cars, I recently had a Chevy Beretta, all i could do was lower it and intake/exhaust...was OBDI so I could not "tune.

Anyway, Roush has a programmer that I can get for the Roush Intake that I got, and also it has a 93 octane tune I can do as well. Would this programmer be a good choice, or are there others that are more versatile?

Thanks guys,

Towelly · Sep 9, 2008

I'm bias but I'd say MGW. Awesome shifter, don't order the shift stops as our transmission has internal shift stops.

I'd get a intake and tuner from one of the tuners like brenspeed or bamachips. Both are well respected and are priced right. You can get a Xcal2, Xcal3 or Diablo tuner and intake package from them with specific tunes for your cars setup. Can't go wrong.

DarkFireGT · Sep 9, 2008

IMO, you can't go wrong with either one. We have Hurst on both of our cars and it has worked well for us. We like the notchy feel. But if you want the smooth euro feel, then go with the MGW shifter. The MGW has the ability to use the stock knob. The Hurst does not.

NastyStang113 · Sep 9, 2008

Like DarkFireGT said. They are both two completely different shifters. The Hurst will be notchy like a old car. The MGW is smooth, positive, and firm like a European car, almost. I prefer the MGW. The MGW is very adjustable and is made in Georgia. The MGW will accept the stock shifter while the Hurst will not. The MGW is more money but I think it's worth it. The quality on their parts is second to none and even the packaging of their parts is second to none. I was VERY impressed. I order a lot of stuff from a lot of stuff so believe me, they are a first class company.

As far as the programmer. Do yourself a favor. Do NOT get that. Get a Xcal2 or Xcal3 from VMP Tuning as well as the C&L Racer with a 88mm maf tube. It will put down GREAT numbers !!

anthony05gt · Sep 9, 2008

I have an MGW and it's the bomb. Ditched a triax for it. My buddy just ditched the new Hurst billet version with his turbo '05. He couldn't shift at high R's at 490rwhp. We just installed the MGW on his car and it now shifts just fine. Of course his clutch set up is right and ajusted properly with a McLeod release brg. That also helps to have the release brg at the proper distance from the diaphram.

Wind-Farmer · Sep 9, 2008

With the Xcal3 tune, it says I can do it for 93 octane, how do I get the CAI tune? Just tell them about it? Does it matter what Intake you have for a CAI tune to work? Or do you need special tunes for different intakes?

NastyStang113 · Sep 9, 2008

Wind-Farmer said:
With the Xcal3 tune, it says I can do it for 93 octane, how do I get the CAI tune? Just tell them about it? Does it matter what Intake you have for a CAI tune to work? Or do you need special tunes for different intakes?

Who are you talking about?

Wind-Farmer · Sep 9, 2008

I didn't read it all through, I may just have to order the racer CAI and xcal 3 package for $600, that seems pretty reasonable. Do the Intakes make the car sound more mean on Mustangs? I know it made my Beretta sound awesome!

NastyStang113 · Sep 9, 2008

Yes it will make it sound better. Where are you talking about ordering it from? I wouldn't get the Racer unless you get the 88mm maf tube from VMP Tuning. Trust me, it makes much better power than the 95mm MAF tube it comes with ...

Wind-Farmer · Sep 9, 2008

Oh really? I thought the 95mm would be better? Interesting, as you can see I know nothing about these cars. How do I go about getting the 88mm? Why is it better?

SpartaPerformance · Sep 9, 2008

MGW without a second thought, one of my old employees has the Hurst and its not all that much better then factory.

GOLDENPONY · Sep 9, 2008

Shifter

MGW!!

dro · Sep 9, 2008

NastyStang113 · Sep 9, 2008

Wind-Farmer said:
Oh really? I thought the 95mm would be better? Interesting, as you can see I know nothing about these cars. How do I go about getting the 88mm? Why is it better?

Contact Justin at VMPTuning.com ... It's better because the 95mm is too big and the "Street" version of the C&L comes with one that is too small.

I'd just get the programmer and tune(s) from him as well.

stang8urimport · Sep 12, 2008

Be a man and get a Hurst. Shift with a real shifter

walter · Sep 12, 2008

Bottom Line

Hurst = Cheap, Retro, and Notchy

MGW = Expensive, Stealthy, and Smooth

Deciding Factors for most should be 1 Budget, 2 Feel, 3 Looks in that particular order

stang8urimport · Sep 12, 2008

Budget has nothing to do with it. I can afford any shifter on the market, but I chose the Hurst cause it feels the best... TO ME.

walter · Sep 12, 2008

That's cool I'm just saying if you want something but don't have the money for the "best" you can get you go for what else works if you just have to have it. I haven't run across anyone yet that doesn't go by that.

But yeah I love my Hurst shifter though it can be excessively notchy and noisy especially after installing Steeda insulators to go with it. It would be nice to try the MGW when I have some money to throw at it but that's way down on my list at this point.

anticubicle · Sep 12, 2008

Skipping all of the replies...here is my take.

Personal Opinion: I like the stock look much more than the old school look so the nod goes to the MGW here. This is just my taste. I also don't like my shifter sitting high up like the Hurst sits.

Facts: The hurst is a cheaper shifter, not just in price but in build quality. The MGW is adjustable in several different ways (height, throw, knobs, angle etc.,) while the Hurst has no adjustability aside from swapping the shift ball.

The Hurst has a very loose feel when compared to the MGW. Also a well known problem with the Hurst shifter is that it has a tendancy to rattle under heavy load. This was not an install issue as this rattle was happening on my car as well as a friend of mine's car.

I had a Hurst in my car for 2 weeks. Took it out and sold it on Wednesday. Putting the $$$ towards an MGW and getting the Bullitt shift knob

NastyStang113 · Sep 13, 2008

PoopDawg said:
Budget has nothing to do with it. I can afford any shifter on the market, but I chose the Hurst cause it feels the best... TO ME.

Than what was the point of this post?

Be a man and get a Hurst. Shift with a real shifter

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