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I am about to take the 5 lug off and go back 4 lug

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old_blue

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Just kidding! But it is getting annoying. New master cylinder is on (brand new 95 gt) bench bled and the pedal still goes to the floor. I asked a few peeps around here and they said that if the booster was cracked or went out that it would be like manual brakes or a little harder. (someone told me that before on here too). Is there something that the calipers could be doing. The rear calipers are the only old parts on the car as I got them from a junk yard. Am I just not getting all the air out??? This weekend I am taking the wheels completely off and bleeding it again to make sure I see that there are no more bubbles coming out. After that....... I will run it with no brakes. I want to finish this as I have other mods to do to the car. explorer intake, 65mm tb, 6 g alternator, white backlit face gauges-- (not really a mod) and my spin tech mufflers........ someone give me some suggestions. I just think I need to bleed the whole car 6 times in a row and maybe that will get the air out.
 
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You need to use a hand pump bleeder. Your not getting all the air out.I used a quart of fluid bleeding my brakes to get the pedal back.
 

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While the Traditional answer would be to say its not the Brake Booster, your Push Rod physically fell out of it and is obviously not in the correct position, get the 93 Cobra Booster and use the instructions on Maximum Motorsports for setting the proper depth of the Push Rod.
 

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shaker- it is on order as we speak. I am just wanting to make sure I am not wasting my $$$$. Just sooo weird. Thanks for hanging with me during this dilema
 

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No Problem, I just dont want to see you Ruin a brand new M/C, if that rod pushes to far in it make mess the seals up and you will be out buying another M/C then!
 

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true,i'll just wait for my other one to come in
 

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Garden Sprayer Pressure Bake Bleeder

1 each pump type garden sprayer, 1 - 1 ½ gallon capacity (size doesn’t matter much, it just has to be cheap and small enough to be easy to work with)
6-10 feet 3/8” clear plastic tubing
1 each ¼” brass pipe tee
1 each ¼” pipe to 3/8: hose adapter
1 each pressure gauge 0-60 PSI or so – all you’ll ever need is 5- 10 PSI, so the gauge range doesn’t have to be high.
1 each large rubber stopper – this is the hard part to find. It may take some searching to find one that is a snug push fit to the inside of the filler port on the master cylinder. You can use silicone rubber to seal a brass fitting to an old master cylinder cap, but they tend to leak too much.
Home Depot or Lowes has some ¼” brass pipe stock that is continuously threaded in the electric lamp repair department, along with the brass nuts that go with it. This is better than a pipe nipple, since the nuts can be used to secure the pipe in the cap or stopper.
OR if you can’t find the threaded pipe stock,
1 each ¼” nipple, 1 ½”- 2” long

The rubber stopper needs a hole drilled in it for the ¼” pipe nipple or threaded pipe stock. After you drill the hole, use some silicone gasket sealer to seal the pipe nipple as you push it into the rubber stopper. If you used the threaded pipe stock, use the nuts to secure the stock into the stopper.

If you can’t find a suitable rubber stopper, an old master cylinder cap can be used. Drill a ½” hole in the center for the pipe fitting. Cut the brass pipe stock to about 1”- 1 ½” long, the exact length isn’t too important. Push it through the hole in the master cylinder cap and thread one nut on top of the pipe stock where it sticks though the cap. Put another nut on the other side of the cap to lock the pipe stock in place. Apply some silicone rubber gasket sealer to both sides and when it is dry, screw the ¼” pipe that sticks out of the top of the cap into the tee.

Remove the sprayer hose and wand from the garden sprayer. You may find it easier just to cut the sprayer hose off short and connect it to the 3/8” plastic tubing. The idea is that the 3/8” tubing connects to the pickup tube inside the sprayer in a reliable, leak proof fashion. Another alternative is to remove the spray nozzle from the end of the spray wand and connect the 3/8” tubing to the wand. This leaves the hand valve in place and may be useful to start/stop the flow of brake fluid.

The 3/8” plastic tubing connects to the pipe tee using a push on hose barb type adapter. The pipe tee has one port for the gauge, one for the 3/8” hose and the other to connect to the rubber stopper or master cylinder cap that you modified.

Fill the pump sprayer with a quart of brake fluid. Set the garden sprayer on the ground and screw the pump handle down tight, and pump until brake fluid fills the plastic tubing. Then put the modified stopper or master cylinder cap on the master cylinder and pump slowly to make sure that nothing leaks or pops loose. No leaks, continue pumping until you get 5-10 PSI. Put a 6”-12” length of clear plastic tubing on the bleeder ports. Then open the bleeder ports on the wheel cylinders one at a time and bleed until the bubbles are gone. I use a 2 liter soda bottle with a coat hanger to catch the fluid . DO NOT REUSE THE OLD BRAKE FLUID. Repeat the process until you have finished all 4 wheels. You will have to pump the sprayer several times to maintain the 5-10 PSI needed to do the job. When finished bleeding, loosen the pump handle to relieve the pressure, remove the stopper/modified master cylinder cap and test the pedal.

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