I Call BS...

DFG 5OH · Feb 16, 2006

OK...at work today a cobra rode up...and my boss was outside lookin at it, talkin to the owner, so i thought i'd go take a peak. Yea it was a real cobra 1995.

I said: How much power does it have?
He said: 625hp

ok...this is total BS...there are the mods he told me, or that i could see.

Vortech SQ 12# boost.
Fluidine Rad
Aftermarker water pump.
Ported twisted wedge heads
port matched cobra intake
65mm TB
42# injectors
Z Cam
MSD 6 AL
TKO Tranny
Built 302 bottom end

there is NO way that this combo could reach 625HP. He said he's never had it on the dyno, but thats what people tell him. He's running on no tune, and using the Vortech FMU. He said it'll run 10.33's in the 1/4th...

I hate it when people get nice cars and know nothing about them...

VibrantRedGT · Feb 16, 2006

Guess that throttle body myth has been answered. You certainly can run 600+HP with a small one.

S/CBlack95GT · Feb 16, 2006

With the right compression I have no doubt it could lay down 500rwhp. 625 crank hp would be a stretch though.

mo_dingo · Feb 16, 2006

yeah so people told him what it should dyno at, so it's gotta be right....

Least it's real and fast.....
Scott

final5-0 · Feb 16, 2006

He was talkin 625 at the fw

IT COULD HAPPEN

thats 531 at the wheels if you factor in a 15% loss

Grady

xr8d302 · Feb 16, 2006

I'd call him on BS, but I think, with perfect tuning, and everything running perfectly, he wouldn't be horribly far from those numbers. Call me crazy, but more ridiculous things have happened.

95WhiteVenom · Feb 17, 2006

Matt, after you told me about this I started laughing. I think this guy has some smoke blown up his ass before he bought the car to impress him. Seeings how you saif she ain't done anything to the car himself. He is just believing what he was told.

moneypit94 · Feb 17, 2006

with a tko it is probably closer to 18% loss so if he would dyno 500rwhp it would be alfully close to 625. The power could be there... The times though?!!... In his dreams. 10.30's!!! Setup and as light as an all out drag car i could see it.

BTW: Power wise i woud say more like 450 rwhp with everything setup right.

I have a feeling this guy is in for a rude awakening when he hits the dyno or the strip.

69clark · Feb 17, 2006

42lbers sound a little small for 625hp, doesn't it?

Monsterbishi · Feb 17, 2006

69clark said:
42lbers sound a little small for 625hp, doesn't it?

That would be at their maximum capacity, but they could do it. Having said that, they'd max out at pretty much exactly 7000rpm@10psi.

moneypit94 · Feb 17, 2006

Monsterbishi said:
That would be at their maximum capacity, but they could do it. Having said that, they'd max out at pretty much exactly 7000rpm@10psi.

actually if it was anything like my setup they would peg the mas air meter about 5,500 rpms. Through tuning they will still be effectice till about 6200 or so.

FORCED2DV8 · Feb 17, 2006

He reminds me of a customer of mine, I built a chevelle for him, Sorry for the cursing, Anyway I had it running and tuned it on the dyno, 472 BB, rwhp was 465 thru a 4l80 e auto trans, so i figure a 20 to 30 % loss thru that, And i tell him he probably at or around 560 or 575 at the flywheel. So just as we pull it off and into the lot some people show up and what does he say...Oh yeah it just made 700 hp. I just turned and walked away. Some people wil always be idiots and full of

harrisonfiveo · Feb 17, 2006

Running 10.30's and its streetable...i doubt it. he might run low 12's or high 11's if he's got slicks. Yea people that don't know what they have and try to brag about it piss me off too

95cobraguy · Feb 17, 2006

total bs. if he had 625hp he would need 55 or 60lb injectors. the bottom end is built, is it still 302 or did he up the displacement? if he was making that power that manifold is choking it to death. i would say 450 plus to the wheels, unless his aftermarket waterpump adds 80hp. lol.

DFG 5OH · Feb 17, 2006

BTW he said he could get 16# off of the SQ trim...if thats possible, thats maxxing that thing out isnt it?

Swarzkopf · Feb 17, 2006

Why couldn't you do 10.3 in a 625hp car?

Assuming a race weight around ~3400lbs and the right powerband, gearing, suspension and tires this doesn't sound impossible to me.

Doesn't mean this guy isn't bull****ting...I'm speaking in general.

Pokageek · Feb 17, 2006

he's using the 20% rule. 500rwhp /.8 = 625FWHP...

1slow95 · Feb 17, 2006

625hp sounds a little high for that intake/tb, but I don't think it's too far off. Here's my friends combo making 657RWHP.

347 8.5:1 compression
AFR 185 heads.
Ported lower SysteMaxII lower w/ Vortech/Saleen upper
1.6 scorpion rockers
S-trim (2.75 upper, 6.87 lower) 14#
1 3/4 BBK longtubes, 2.5" Dr.Gas X pipe, and 3 chamber delta flow flowmasters
SMC 'Superpump' methanol injection (straight methanol, no water mix)
PMS tuned.

Pokageek · Feb 17, 2006

WOW, lol. That's some insane power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

95cobraguy · Feb 17, 2006

see, your friends combo is the ticket for 600+ hp, not the other guys setup. what size injectors does your buddy have? well over 42's i'm sure. that cobra intake that guy is running wouldn't allow him to make over 600 horse. my car was making 470 to the wheels with a cobra intake (extrude honed upper, hand ported lower) and it was completely choking it. i went to an edelbrock performer rpm II manifold and it made a world of difference. come on people.

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