Installing some new spring perches but need the nuts and bolts

jerry S · May 29, 2006

I just got some new spring perches in the mail but they were missing the nut and bolt (hear that Frank?) I would prefer to install new mounting hardware rather than what is on there from 40 years ago. To complicate matters, I am in Euroland so everything here is metric so I need to order something stateside in advance of removing the old ones. What do I need to order? The perches are Opentracker's roller spring perches that I purchased second hand.

pabear89 · May 29, 2006

Working on my first cup of coffee, but I think the nuts are in the upper arm.
You could just retap them to metric size bolts and save a few bucks.

PB

Opentracker · May 29, 2006

jerry S said:
I just got some new spring perches in the mail but they were missing the nut and bolt (hear that Frank?) I would prefer to install new mounting hardware rather than what is on there from 40 years ago. To complicate matters, I am in Euroland so everything here is metric so I need to order something stateside in advance of removing the old ones. What do I need to order? The perches are Opentracker's roller spring perches that I purchased second hand.

I'll send you the bolts for free. Send your shipping address to sales@opentrackerracingproducts.com .

John

65mistress · May 30, 2006

Talk about customer service.

Opentracker · May 30, 2006

It was only $5 to ship 'em. I thought it would be more than that. I wouldn't want to use the 40yr old hardware either, though Ford did use grade 8 bolts back then.

John

jerry S · May 30, 2006

Opentracker said:
It was only $5 to ship 'em. I thought it would be more than that. I wouldn't want to use the 40yr old hardware either, though Ford did use grade 8 bolts back then.

John

Thanks again John. I will spread the good word about your stuff over here.

Opentracker · May 30, 2006

No problem, I believe there are now two sets in Europe and I just sent the second set to OZ. With the roads you have over there, the roller perches will help more than they do here. Let us know how you like 'em after the test drive.

I've been working on some new toy's. Here's a sneak peek at my Roller UCA's

John

streetgrande69 · May 30, 2006

Opentracker said:
I've been working on some new toy's. Here's a sneak peek at my Roller UCA's

John

i think i just pee'd a little...must have....

302 coupe · May 30, 2006

oh my....

2bav8 · May 30, 2006

Wow, are those roller bearings instead of a shaft on the upper arm? Truly a work of art John!

Opentracker · May 30, 2006

Yep - it's a custom made 4140 chromoly shaft with replaceable sealed roller bearings load rated at 5000lbs per arm. And thanks, I've been working on this for almost a year. They'll have a "Patent pending" stamp.

John

streetgrande69 · May 30, 2006

Opentracker said:
They'll have a "Patent pending" stamp.

John

John, glad to see you've taken steps to keep your ideas....yours! I was scared a couple years ago when i first started talking to you that someone would try to take your ideas and make a bigger profit then you. You truly are an innovator amounts us .....and these forums built your foundation. This is a success story worth adding to the record books! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Now that I've brown nosed....why don't you just send over a set of those there upper arms.......

well i guess that’s just wishful thinking there.

I think that when the time comes to redo my front end....I'll be using your roller front suspension for sure!

So are dealer inquires welcome? I've been thinking of doing an online shop for performance parts that catch my eye....all of your stuff catches my eye...no drought!

Cupid · May 30, 2006

65mistress said:
Talk about customer service.

This is just to coincidental if you ask me.... I was over a fellow Mustanger's house this past weekend and we started talking about suspensions. Of course roller perches came up. He lit up with excitement, explaining to me that he "knew the guy" that made them. Not only that, but he lived in the next town over and actually came by to help him with a problem he had with his stang. Now i'm thinkin' gimme a break, but this guy is honest and this thread is just another sign that his story was true.

Keep it up opentracker, and your reputation will continue to spread!:SNSign:

By the way, I live in Salinas so maybe you can come over in a couple of weeks and help me replace my entire suspension.

That's a lot of work for a one man team, but it's gotta be done! Any takers?

FordMuscle · May 30, 2006

I can vouch for John's work.... here is a review on his perches. We'll also cover his Lower Arms this coming issue (June)
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/12/RollerSpringPerch/index.php

Opentracker · May 31, 2006

streetgrande69 said:
So are dealer inquires welcome? I've been thinking of doing an online shop for performance parts that catch my eye....all of your stuff catches my eye...no drought!

Yes - We have 5 vendors so far.

Cupid said:
This is just to coincidental if you ask me.... I was over a fellow Mustanger's house this past weekend and we started talking about suspensions. Of course roller perches came up. He lit up with excitement, explaining to me that he "knew the guy" that made them. Not only that, but he lived in the next town over and actually came by to help him with a problem he had with his stang. Now i'm thinkin' gimme a break, but this guy is honest and this thread is just another sign that his story was true.

Keep it up opentracker, and your reputation will continue to spread!

By the way, I live in Salinas so maybe you can come over in a couple of weeks and help me replace my entire suspension.

That's a lot of work for a one man team, but it's gotta be done! Any takers?

I would help if I could but I don't have that much time. I do help out when I can. I am known around here as "The Mustang Guy" or " The guy with the old Fords". I get asked a lot of questions about these cars. Most of the time I have a good answer or I can point them in the right direction.

I was comming out of the store yesterday and a guy who I don't know pointed at me and said "Your the Mustang guy" I said "yep", he smiled and kept walking.

If you get stuck with your suspension build, my tech line (email) is always open.

John

bnickel · May 31, 2006

damn John, those are awesome. can't wait to get me a set of them. gonna be a while but hey, you can't truly appreciate something until you've had to wait a long time to get it.

65mistress · Jun 1, 2006

Ok, REAAlly stupid question. Do these have the braces on the underside as well and are they set with the realignment of the ball joint? How are the LCA's coming? What are we looking at as far as prices or do you have that figured out yet?

EDIT: Dumb dumb dumb, I should have checked out your website first.

Opentracker · Jun 1, 2006

The roller UCA's have the same bracing and ball joint angle change as the track ready arms we have now. They take a lot of time and material to build. The price will be high, more than the TCP or GW arms. They should be on the web site in a week or two.

I will say too that they are total over-kill for anything but a full-on race car that has to be vintage leagal.

Underside of roller UCA's

John

jbuening · Jun 1, 2006

Opentracker said:
The roller UCA's have the same bracing and ball joint angle change as the track ready arms we have now. They take a lot of time and material to build. The price will be high, more than the TCP or GW arms. They should be on the web site in a week or two.

I will say too that they are total over-kill for anything but a full-on race car that has to be vintage leagal.

Underside of roller UCA's

John

John,
Is it the bracing that would make it overkill or do you think a roller upper control arm is overkill for a street car? The less friction the better, but IMO the bracing isn't needed for a street car. The revised balljoint angle would also be a plus for a street car. So would a stock upper arm with the revised balljoint angle and the roller be overkill?

Opentracker · Jun 1, 2006

When you-all see the price, you'll think I have lost my mind. That alone makes it overkill.

I'll have a set of roller UCA's on my daily driver in a few days and they'll stay on there. The performance isn't overkill, the price is. I think the ORP track ready, Maier, TCP and GW arms are overkill for a street car, it's just not worth the price for the gain you get on the street. The racing enviorment is so different that the street, any little gain you can get is worth any amount of money (as long as you have it to spend or a good sponsor) it cost because lap times and driver comfort are so important. Till now, both of my daily drivers use a bone stock upper arm with the mods to the shaft kit our street ready arms have. No bracing and no ball joint angle change. I don't see the need for anything more than a 1" upper arm drop on a street car and that can be had with a stock upper arm. The roller part may help on the street though, I'll find out in a few days.

John

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