is this normal after putting in a new Manifold intake?

[Road_Runna]

I started the car today, after putting in a new Performer intake today.
A cloud of white smoke came out, as I turned the car over, but nothing comes out at idle? but when I ran her, at full throttle; their appeared to be some more smoke (white) when I gunned it. is this normal? is my car just getting rid of any mix coolant/oil from when I removed the stocker lower?

BTW, I can tell the timing is way off. One of my friends said that, it could be the timing, making the car smoke a lil, and it could also be sparks, and wires.
but again their doesn't seem to be any smoke coming out at idle.

 

[S/CBlack95GT]

The timing is not causing the smoke. One of two things is. 1) You may have spilled some coolant in the port(s), but that should burn off after a little driving. 2) The lower intake seal is leaking and letting coolant into the intake port(s). If you drive the car a bit and the smoke still appears then most likely the lower seal is leaking.

 

[yellow1995Cobra]

Yea id say its the lower intake seal.. Sucks when you gotta do things twice...

 

[Road_Runna]

Yea id say its the lower intake seal.. Sucks when you gotta do things twice...

three times. The first: I forgot the baffle thingy.
I just finished it yesterday, and turned it on today. I just hope it's because ofsome leftover coolant.
Please GOD I don't wanna do it again.

 

[S/CBlack95GT]

Here is how I do my lower intake seal and I have never had a problem. Of course the first thing to do it clean the heads really well. I also acetone them after I clean them. I use the 1250 Fel-Pro intake seals. I apply Permetex High Tack sealant to the HEAD side of the lower intake seal. You do not need any sealer on the INTAKE side of the seal b/c the Fel-Pro gaskets have that blue Printo-seal that works really well. I apply a bead of RTV for the end seals. I also cut the heads of two old lower intake bolts and screw them into the rear of one head and the front of the opposite head. This way you can lower then intake onto the heads correctly. Finally torque the bolts to 18ft-lbs with alum heads and 24 with irons.

 

[stang_gt_1994]

Just take your time next time and see how it does.

 

[1105]

Shaun, your like the only other person I know on here that doesnt cover the blue rubber pieces with RTV Glad to see I'm not the only one.

 

[S/CBlack95GT]

Shaun, your like the only other person I know on here that doesnt cover the blue rubber pieces with RTV Glad to see I'm not the only one.

Yea the only thing I use RTV on is for the end seals. That Permatex high tack sealant is amazing stuff. It dries like super glue, but it is a pain in the *** to scrape if you ever take the engine apart. If I applied the High Tack sealant to the INTAKE side(blue seal side) of the gaskets I dont think I could remove the intake b/c that stuff sticks so well.

 

[Road_Runna]

Shaun, your like the only other person I know on here that doesnt cover the blue rubber pieces with RTV Glad to see I'm not the only one.

So, just leave those blue rubber pieces, as is?
No RTV at all.

I used RTV, on the head side of the seal's, the lower intake side of the lower seals, and also on the Rubber ends (and I caked it there).

 

[S/CBlack95GT]

So, just leave those blue rubber pieces, as is?
No RTV at all.

I used RTV, on the head side of the seal's, the lower intake side of the lower seals, and also on the Rubber ends (and I caked it there).

Right, just leave the INTAKE side as is. Those blue rubberish lines seal just fine. Look into some of the Permatex High Tack sealant for the HEAD side though. Autozone carries it and it works really well. I like it better than RTV b/c it doesn't squeeze out and dries faster. It is basically like modeling glue. RTV comes out so thick and when you torque the intake down there is almost no space between the gasket and the head/intake, so most of the RTV just squishes out. Using the RTV for the end seals is still needed though.

 

[1105]

I use 3M weather strip adhesive on the headside of thoes rubber pieces. Same idea as the stuff you use and put some RTV in the corners where the rubber pieces meet up with the gaskets.

People say to use RTV on the bottom side of the rubber pieces, but if you do that and go to set the intake down, thoes pieces may move because RTV isnt designed to hold them inplace.

 

[S/CBlack95GT]

I dont use the rubber end seals at all. I just make the entire end seal out of RTV.

 

[Rootus]

I dont use the rubber end seals at all. I just make the entire end seal out of RTV.

Ditto. I don't use anything at all on the intake gaskets, and for the end seals I just use RTV. After the first time, I learned to put a rather *large* amount of RTV, actually...

Dave

 

[1105]

What are these rubber end seals? All I remember getting in my gasket kit was the blue rubber pieces, the gaskets, and an O-ring for the distributer...

I installed my intake once with a rather large amount of RTV and it leaked No more of that for me.

 

[S/CBlack95GT]

What are these rubber end seals? All I remember getting in my gasket kit was the blue rubber pieces, the gaskets, and an O-ring for the distributer...

I installed my intake once with a rather large amount of RTV and it leaked No more of that for me.

Fel-pro includes the gaskets, the dist. o-rings and then either cork end seals or those long blue rubber seals like you mentioned. I always get the cork ones when I order a gasket set. No way Im using those.

 

[yellow1995Cobra]

When you do the lower intake, do like blacksc said and cut the heads off a couple bolts. Now, put RTV down on the heads, lay the gaskets down, and place the lower intake on. Let it sit for 2-3 hours until the rtv is completely dry. Remove the intake now, and you can cut away the gasket around any of the ports it may have over hung.

After that, RTV the end seals, lay the lower on again and torque it down. I do 10ft/lb's on my aluminum heads, as AFR recommends "hand tight".

Do not put any RTV on the intake side. Its nice if you dont, cause if you have to pop the lower off again, the gasket will still be in perfect shape. I ALWAYS reuse my gaskets on the heads. Its a real time saver.

 

[Road_Runna]

Update.

The car isn't blowing white smoke no more.

But I did take it to Midas for a coolant pressure test; it passed, and there wasn't any sign of air escaping from the lower intake at all. But I did have some coolant dripping from the water pump hose. And on my way home from work, I noticed the "low coolant" light was on. (funny that light wasn't on earlier today, on my way to work).

Im hoping it's because of that water pump hose, that I din't tighten enough.

is their any need to worry? the white smoke is gone, and I passed the compression coolant test, and their doesn't seem to be any leak at all.
Am I just worrying about nothing?

 

[S/CBlack95GT]

It sounds fine to me

 

[1105]

I get the low coolant light every now and then. Just fill up the overflow bottle and that'll turn it off.