KB GT people
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Wellcome to KB club. i just won my first prize at www.cafords.com car show. 
dude, i am from San Jose. i also just got my KB on.
dont tune it, cause' the hp is just like they advertise.
i dyno at 375 rwhp and 386 rwtq with a very badly slipping clutch.
here is a thread that posted by Kenne Bell tech
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14486
KENNE BELL MINIMUM SUGGESTIONS and GUIDELINES FOR RUNNING YOUR CAR / TRUCK ON THE DYNO
If you are planning on having your car/truck dynoed, and you wish to report the results to us, follow the guidelines below to insure optimum power measurements when dyno testing (there are other conditions, but these are the basic minimum recommended guidelines):
Be aware while in the SHOOTOUT mode, the traction control will be deactivated (OFF, LIGHT ON), as with all Kenne Bell Shootout calibrations. Also, as we always recommend, NEVER, EVER run in SHOOTOUT mode unless running straight 100 octane fuel or better or engine damage will occur. We recommend hiding the switch so only you know where it is located to prevent someone else from inadvertently changing it to Shootout mode without your knowledge.
NOTE: Kenne Bell will only consider reviewing DynoJet Dynamometer horsepower and torque readings, as some other dynos have been proven to be inaccurate. We do not make use of air/fuel data unless the data is taken from an ECM or Horiba instrument. Even if using the ECM or Horiba, please, no “tailpipe sniffer” air/fuel readings. They also can be very inaccurate, unless exact lab procedures are followed .
GENERAL
INSURE THE DYNO IS SET TO READ S.A.E. ONLY. MEASUREMENTS WILL BE DIFFERENT WHEN CORRECTING FOR OTHER “STANDARDS”.
INSURE DYNO ATMOSPHERIC CONDITION SENSORS ARE READING CORRECTLY AND THE PROPER ELEVATION FOR THE LOCATION OF THE DYNO IS CORRECT.
INSURE TIRE PRESSURES ARE CORRECT - LOW PRESSURE = LOW HP READINGS
TEMPERATURE PLAYS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE OUTCOME OF HP AND TQ READINGS! MAKE SURE THE RADIATOR, INTERCOOLER HEAT EXCHANGER AND SUPERCHARGER INLET SYSTEM ARE VENTILATED PROPERLY WITH LARGE CFM HI-SPEED FANS (do not blow directly into open filter).
SWITCH CHIP POWER MODE
MAKE SURE THE TANK IS OVER 1/4 FULL WITH PURE 91 OCTANE OR BETTER.
SHUT OFF THE TRACTION CONTROL SWITCH PRIOR TO ANY DYNO RUN.
IF YOU WISH TO OBTAIN THE BEST HP AND TQ VALUES, RUN THE VEHICLE WHEN AS COLD AS POSSIBLE. AGAIN, TEMPERATURE AFFECTS THE HORSEPOWER AND TORQUE OUTPUT - AS TEMPERATURE INCREASES, HP AND TQ DECREASES AUTOMATICALLY (IN THE KB CHIP) TO PROTECT THE ENGINE AND CONTROL KNOCK.
RUN THE VEHICLE IN THE TRANSMISSION GEAR THAT IS A 1:1 RATIO (THIS IS ALMOST ALWAYS 3RD GEAR IN AN AUTOMATIC AND 4TH GEAR IN A STICK CAR).
SWITCH CHIP SHOOTOUT MODE
DRAIN OUT ANY FUEL WITH AN OCTANE OF LESS THAN 100. MAKE SURE THE TANK IS OVER 1/4 FULL WITH PURE 100 OCTANE OR BETTER.
THE TRACTION CONTROL SWITCH (if applicable) SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE MANUALLY SHUT OFF PRIOR TO ANY DYNO RUN, AS THE KB CHIP KEEPS THIS OFF WHILE IN SHOOTOUT. THE T/C LIGHT SHOULD ALWAYS REMAIN ON (deactivated), EVEN IF PRESSED TO RESET OR RESTARTING THE ENGINE.
ALTHOUGH TEMPERATURE WILL ALSO AFFECT THE SHOOTOUT HP AND TQ OUTPUT, THERE WILL BE LESS EFFECTIVE REDUCTION IN POWER - THIS POSITION WILL ALLOW FULL SPARK TIMING UNTIL REACHING HIGHER ENGINE OPERATING TEMPERATURES.
SUGGESTED DATA TO BE RECORDED DURING DYNO RUNS
WE RECOMMEND OBTAINING THE MINIMUM DATA PARAMETERS (REQUIRES SCAN TOOL OR AUTOTAP) FOR EACH RUN:
RPM, LOAD, LOOP (OPEN/CLOSED), MAF (A/D COUNTS OR VOLTS, NOT grams/second, or lbs/minute, or kilograms/second, or anything else.... just A/D COUNTS, OR VOLTS), INLET AIR TEMPERATURE (IAT), ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE (ECT), TOTAL SPARK ADVANCE, THROTTLE POSITION. FUEL PRESSURE IS HANDY IF YOU CAN GET IT.
IT DOES NO GOOD TO LOG 4 MILLION OTHER PARAMETERS THAT MEAN NOTHING - ALL THIS WILL DO IS SLOW THE SAMPLE RATE DOWN AND SKEW THE LOGGING, JUST GET THE ONES ABOVE IF YOU ARE GOING TO WANT US TO LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU.
Again, these are the minimum recommended guidelines for obtaining useful dyno horsepower and torque readings. Follow all other safety guidelines as instructed by your dyno operator.
Good luck with your tests!
Let us know how everything comes out.
Regards,
Kenne Bell
dude, i am from San Jose. i also just got my KB on.
dont tune it, cause' the hp is just like they advertise.
i dyno at 375 rwhp and 386 rwtq with a very badly slipping clutch.
here is a thread that posted by Kenne Bell tech
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14486
KENNE BELL MINIMUM SUGGESTIONS and GUIDELINES FOR RUNNING YOUR CAR / TRUCK ON THE DYNO
If you are planning on having your car/truck dynoed, and you wish to report the results to us, follow the guidelines below to insure optimum power measurements when dyno testing (there are other conditions, but these are the basic minimum recommended guidelines):
Be aware while in the SHOOTOUT mode, the traction control will be deactivated (OFF, LIGHT ON), as with all Kenne Bell Shootout calibrations. Also, as we always recommend, NEVER, EVER run in SHOOTOUT mode unless running straight 100 octane fuel or better or engine damage will occur. We recommend hiding the switch so only you know where it is located to prevent someone else from inadvertently changing it to Shootout mode without your knowledge.
NOTE: Kenne Bell will only consider reviewing DynoJet Dynamometer horsepower and torque readings, as some other dynos have been proven to be inaccurate. We do not make use of air/fuel data unless the data is taken from an ECM or Horiba instrument. Even if using the ECM or Horiba, please, no “tailpipe sniffer” air/fuel readings. They also can be very inaccurate, unless exact lab procedures are followed .
GENERAL
INSURE THE DYNO IS SET TO READ S.A.E. ONLY. MEASUREMENTS WILL BE DIFFERENT WHEN CORRECTING FOR OTHER “STANDARDS”.
INSURE DYNO ATMOSPHERIC CONDITION SENSORS ARE READING CORRECTLY AND THE PROPER ELEVATION FOR THE LOCATION OF THE DYNO IS CORRECT.
INSURE TIRE PRESSURES ARE CORRECT - LOW PRESSURE = LOW HP READINGS
TEMPERATURE PLAYS A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE OUTCOME OF HP AND TQ READINGS! MAKE SURE THE RADIATOR, INTERCOOLER HEAT EXCHANGER AND SUPERCHARGER INLET SYSTEM ARE VENTILATED PROPERLY WITH LARGE CFM HI-SPEED FANS (do not blow directly into open filter).
SWITCH CHIP POWER MODE
MAKE SURE THE TANK IS OVER 1/4 FULL WITH PURE 91 OCTANE OR BETTER.
SHUT OFF THE TRACTION CONTROL SWITCH PRIOR TO ANY DYNO RUN.
IF YOU WISH TO OBTAIN THE BEST HP AND TQ VALUES, RUN THE VEHICLE WHEN AS COLD AS POSSIBLE. AGAIN, TEMPERATURE AFFECTS THE HORSEPOWER AND TORQUE OUTPUT - AS TEMPERATURE INCREASES, HP AND TQ DECREASES AUTOMATICALLY (IN THE KB CHIP) TO PROTECT THE ENGINE AND CONTROL KNOCK.
RUN THE VEHICLE IN THE TRANSMISSION GEAR THAT IS A 1:1 RATIO (THIS IS ALMOST ALWAYS 3RD GEAR IN AN AUTOMATIC AND 4TH GEAR IN A STICK CAR).
SWITCH CHIP SHOOTOUT MODE
DRAIN OUT ANY FUEL WITH AN OCTANE OF LESS THAN 100. MAKE SURE THE TANK IS OVER 1/4 FULL WITH PURE 100 OCTANE OR BETTER.
THE TRACTION CONTROL SWITCH (if applicable) SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE MANUALLY SHUT OFF PRIOR TO ANY DYNO RUN, AS THE KB CHIP KEEPS THIS OFF WHILE IN SHOOTOUT. THE T/C LIGHT SHOULD ALWAYS REMAIN ON (deactivated), EVEN IF PRESSED TO RESET OR RESTARTING THE ENGINE.
ALTHOUGH TEMPERATURE WILL ALSO AFFECT THE SHOOTOUT HP AND TQ OUTPUT, THERE WILL BE LESS EFFECTIVE REDUCTION IN POWER - THIS POSITION WILL ALLOW FULL SPARK TIMING UNTIL REACHING HIGHER ENGINE OPERATING TEMPERATURES.
SUGGESTED DATA TO BE RECORDED DURING DYNO RUNS
WE RECOMMEND OBTAINING THE MINIMUM DATA PARAMETERS (REQUIRES SCAN TOOL OR AUTOTAP) FOR EACH RUN:
RPM, LOAD, LOOP (OPEN/CLOSED), MAF (A/D COUNTS OR VOLTS, NOT grams/second, or lbs/minute, or kilograms/second, or anything else.... just A/D COUNTS, OR VOLTS), INLET AIR TEMPERATURE (IAT), ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE (ECT), TOTAL SPARK ADVANCE, THROTTLE POSITION. FUEL PRESSURE IS HANDY IF YOU CAN GET IT.
IT DOES NO GOOD TO LOG 4 MILLION OTHER PARAMETERS THAT MEAN NOTHING - ALL THIS WILL DO IS SLOW THE SAMPLE RATE DOWN AND SKEW THE LOGGING, JUST GET THE ONES ABOVE IF YOU ARE GOING TO WANT US TO LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU.
Again, these are the minimum recommended guidelines for obtaining useful dyno horsepower and torque readings. Follow all other safety guidelines as instructed by your dyno operator.
Good luck with your tests!
Let us know how everything comes out.
Regards,
Kenne Bell
Blue Blurr
New Member
hey guys im from the Bay Area too, my KB is coming Sept 4th! 
ive usually seen around here about 410rwhp average from a KB with big tube kit
ive usually seen around here about 410rwhp average from a KB with big tube kitman, more and more people from bay area getting KB now.
i am no unique no more
is there anyone from bay area wanna jump in ?
By the way, if u guys have KB and have question about it. here is a forum dedicated to KB only.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=73
Ken at KB will answer all of ur question
i am no unique no more
is there anyone from bay area wanna jump in ?
By the way, if u guys have KB and have question about it. here is a forum dedicated to KB only.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=73
Ken at KB will answer all of ur question
BrightBlue00GT
I am even OLDER than Hawk!
I'm using the chip KB burned and have never had to tune it differently. It runs as advertised. See sig.
01MustangGT said:Wellcome to KB club. i just won my first prize at www.cafords.com car show.
dude, i am from San Jose. i also just got my KB on.
dont tune it, cause' the hp is just like they advertise.
i dyno at 375 rwhp and 386 rwtq with a very badly slipping clutch.
here is a thread that posted by Kenne Bell tech
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14486
Congrats! on the win. I will be getting a Superchips tune on the 1st. Not trying to put you down but I will be highly dissapointed if I get 375RWHP with 9psi intercooled. That is the lowest I have seen even on the KB site they dynoed 405RWHP with the 9psi intercooled on a stock engine.
BYW, I have a built motor, ported heads, JBA headers, Bassani x-pipe, etc..
BrightBlue00GT said:I'm using the chip KB burned and have never had to tune it differently. It runs as advertised. See sig.
Now you have the numbers that I want, in fact your car is what inspired me..
Is your motor built? What exhaust are you running?
Here's one that Jim Roal installed in an '01 with exhaust mods....
http://home.att.net/~jroal/jay/2001gtkb.html
http://home.att.net/~jroal/jay/2001gtkb.html
Blue Blurr
New Member
362rwhp?? thats lame, mine better get more than that, i hope i didnt just spend 6k for 60 hp hahaha. anyways where did you guys go to get yours installed and all that stuff? or did you do it yourselfs?
BrightBlue00GT
I am even OLDER than Hawk!
Still running on the stock Windsor motor. I have a database of all my mods (in sig), but I'm running a MAC ProChamber with Steeda SS Catback.Trueblue'01gt said:Now you have the numbers that I want, in fact your car is what inspired me..
Blue Blurr - Did mine all myself, as I do all my mods. I have some info, notes and pics during the install on my site (sig) if it helsp any.
Blue Blurr
New Member
are you in the army? thasts pretty cool that ur doing this stuff while ur in the army you must have the coolest car over there, if that is u are in teh army
Blue Blurr
New Member
dont be. i got 375 rwhp because my clutch is slipping. the first run i got 260rwhp because the guys just punch in the gas, and boost go to 9psi immediately, and the smell of the clutch is just all over the place. he got out of the car, and told me that i need a new clutch real bad. on the second run, he did it slowly, and the clutch was still slipping but manage to get 375 rwhp. i asked Ken at KB that is clutch slipping costing me power, and he said yes. i will try to get the new clutch in, and dyno again. because i would be pissed if i dont get to the hp level that they advertised.Trueblue'01gt said:
Blue Blurr said:
I don’t see why either of you would be disappointed with those numbers. The guy had nothing more than an exhaust on the car which couldn’t have given him much more than a total of 225-230rwhp and after bolting on just the 9psi kit, big tube system and no tune, gained over 130rwhp…..how much were you expecting it to make!?!Trueblue'01gt said:
Blue Blurr
New Member
ya man they advertise 406rwhp on bone stock GT.. and like 420 with big tube kit. if you get 375 with big tube kit and 9psi KB then i dunno seems kinda lame. 6k is NOT worth 70 some odd HP. it should put you up over 400 easy, with big tube kit.
Now if you have a bone stock GT and you get a KB and u get 375 something that is not that bad, im jsut saying this cause i am upgrading from my Saleen/eaton SC and this 6k would not be worth 60 some odd HP. but im thinking im going to get over 400rwhp
Now if you have a bone stock GT and you get a KB and u get 375 something that is not that bad, im jsut saying this cause i am upgrading from my Saleen/eaton SC and this 6k would not be worth 60 some odd HP. but im thinking im going to get over 400rwhp
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