Kumho Ecsta MX Questions...

You cant compare the 712(budget tire) with what HE asked about, morans. The MX is a high performance tire for a great price. please stop reading mustang mags that love on nittos(they pay for those words) and go to an autocross, where real drivers know tires. And guess what a LOT of them are running........ Kumho. I have NEVER seen a serios autoXer run nittos.

Kumho WHAT though? Ecsta MX's?

So far so good...

I just put some Kuhmo Ecsta MX's on my new wheels - 295/35/18 & 275/35/18. So far I have no complaints and hope everyone's experiences bashing Kuhmo comes from the 712's and not the MX's. There is a good review of the MX's compared to some other top brands at www.tirerack.com. They don't have a comparison with the Nittos so I can't help with that.

I think they look great and after a couple hundred miles I'm grinning ear to ear

Good luck with your decision - I think your size choice will work well. Remember, you will probably increase the gap under the wheel wells going with a wider lower profile tire, so be ready if you have to lower it at all. I just went through that and have to put in new springs to get rid of the 4x4 look

david97gt46 said:

You cant compare the 712(budget tire) with what HE asked about, morans. The MX is a high performance tire for a great price. please stop reading mustang mags that love on nittos(they pay for those words) and go to an autocross, where real drivers know tires. And guess what a LOT of them are running........ Kumho. I have NEVER seen a serios autoXer run nittos.

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"Morans"? Yeah, you're a smart one. Moron.

What Gino and I are trying to get to is are those autocross people using Kuhmo MX's?!?! Or some other Kuhmo super tire.

GinoGT said:

I don't know which tires they use, but was it the Ecsta MX that was winning? If not, a similar way of looking at that statement would be saying that a Ford Focus will beat everything because Ford also makes the GT(40).

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It's like how in that Magnaflow vs. Flowmaster thread, somebody said how Flowmaster was the winningest muffler in drag racing. Whoopty doo. So the brand name does good, all of a sudden they're the end-all, be-all. The fact that the drivers are all old-fashioned and love to bolt flowmasters onto their 1000HP cars (who's performace isn't at ALL based on a metal box sitting in your exhaust system), and that Kumho's purpose-built autocross tire that lasts a month is totally separate from their street tire that average Joe buys is totally nullified.

Blind brand loyalty based on someone else's results Blind brand loyalty in general.

Right now Kurt Busch is the current NASCAR Nextel Cup points leader. He drives the Sharpie car. Based on this logic, I will become an instant success in anything I do with a Sharpie product. Sounds pretty dumb, doesn't it?

EDIT: And now Nitto is making their drag radial tread and compound with a stiff sidewall making a basic autocross type tire, something they didn't have before. It's still very limited in sizes, but maybe you'll see the usage of Nittos go up in competition now that they're making purpose-built models like Kumho has been doing after they expand that product line.

Kumho has STS and STX drivers running their MX tire, but most autoXers in classes that allow do run V700's(R compound tire). My point is that Kumho really has a REAL racing history with REAL racers(not paid drivers) these are people that pay for their tires and chose kumho.

I've had nitto 555's on the street before and for the price i wasnt impressed to buy them ever again. For the price/performance , the MX tire is right near the top.

Sorry to come off direct, but the first two responses were so blindly ignorant that it just got me fiired up.