Last minute checks before I start brand new engine??

1FatPony

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Alright I got my new engine in and everything back together. All I have to do is pour the fluids in. How many QTs of oil do I need?
I also dont have any coolant right now is 100% water okay?
Any other things I should check or know before I start for the first time??

 

DMAN302

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MAKE SURE...you prime the engine prior to start, you need to get oil pressure up and into that motor before you start it for the first time. You can purchase a prime tool from damn near any performance shop for 15 bucks or use a 1/4 socket TAPED to a long extension and a drill. You need to pull the dizzy, secure the socket or prime tool on the oil pump shaft in the dizzy hole and run the drill in REVERSE until you've built up oil pressure (you will feel the resistance build in the drill) and continue to run it for at least 1-2 minutes. You need 5 quarts of oil and once started keep a close eye on the oil pressure and temp gauges until up to temp...then your driving it. Once you've put 10 or so miles on it, bring it home, change the oil check for leaks, problems, then continue to drive it for the first while with your eyes fixed on the prssure and temp gauges varying RPM as much as possible and avoiding highways for the first 100 or so miles. I like to romp on it in second and third up to 5000 every so often..some like to do it right from the get go, your choice..your money. Good luck.

 

1FatPony

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Im alittle confused on what you mean by prime it. I got a new oil pump and I primed that really well before I put it in (filled it up with oil, rotated the stick thing until about half came out, and filled it back up again). Would filling the engine up with oil and rotating it from the crank a few times help to prime it?

 

Dean85GT

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There should also be sooo much assembly lube in that motor that its not too much of a concern. All I was told to do was pull all the plugs and crank the motor over to make sure there was oil pressure before I started it.

 

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As DMAN302 said, you need to prime that oiled through the engine until oil is coming out all your rockers. Then you know that your bearings will have enough oil. The tool can be rented from AutoZone. You pull the distributor and use the tool with a drill in reverse and get that oil flowing throughtout the engine.

 

1FatPony

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again, will just cranking the engine work?
The engine was pretty well lubed up when I got it. It was dripping everywhere.

 

DMAN302

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Well we're just providing you with the information that best suits the situation...it's your motor and you can do it any way you want. IMO spending the money you did on the motor, time to install and you going to cut corners then like I said...it's your engine (not intended to be rude). Take the 20 bucks...take the ten minutes and get the oil into the motor. Remember that the instant she lights up you'll be sitting at 1000plus RPM and the time it takes for the pump to prime and get the oil up into the filter, then the engine and you could very very very well damage the internals...don't think so...it DEFINATELY can happen.

 

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Prime it or don't turn it over AT ALL. You are gambling with physics if you don't.

Additionally, the maiden start-up should not see pure water as a coolant. There are agents inside coolant that assist in cooling and 100% water is not a suggested practice on a virgin block and rotational setup.

 

1FatPony

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alright youve convinced me to go buy the prime tool and coolant. Ill just have to wait another day .
Also how old do you have to be to register a car and how does that work? Right now its registered as no-op and hasnt been registered since 03 but its all up to date as far as payments go.

 

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Which State? Which County?

You can find all of the information you need as far as registering your car on the internet.

 

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I would prime it but I wonder if Ford primes all the new engines at the factory before start-up? And how long can a car sit without use before it needs to be primed again? Just curious.

 

DMAN302

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Ford does prime the engines on the line.

 

1FatPony

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There was a lot of yellow oilly crap coming out of the engine when I got it about 2 weeks ago. Do I need to prime it again??

 

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1FatPony said:

There was a lot of yellow oilly crap coming out of the engine when I got it about 2 weeks ago. Do I need to prime it again??

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There have been like 23498327473 people who have recommended for you to prime this motor, and I will be person # 23498327474 to say the same thing.

It is your motor and your money, so if you want to risk at the very least reducing the longevity of your engine by not breaking it in properly or not properly preventing oil starvation during the initial start up than go ahead.

Wait the one single extra day, pull the distriutor, stick that oil pump primer down the distributor hole and into the oil pump and spin that son-of-a-b*@#$ until you are 100% sure that there isn't a dry bearing in the house.

There is no such thing as too much protection from lubrication, but there definitely is such a thing as too little.

 

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1FatPony said:

There was a lot of yellow oilly crap coming out of the engine when I got it about 2 weeks ago. Do I need to prime it again??

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YES you need to prime it.

Everyone has already told you this.


Get the priming tool and a REALLY good drill (not cordless) and run it in reverse as stated above.

Again it's your money and time. Your going to do what you want, but we have answered your question.

We don't want you to be asking next week why your new motor is knocking now do we?

 

1FatPony

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lol sorry guys. I just want to get this thing running as soon as possible. Ill go to kragens tomorrow and rent a prime tool.

 

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1FatPony said:

lol sorry guys. I just want to get this thing running as soon as possible. Ill go to kragens tomorrow and rent a prime tool.

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BELIEVE ME I know wanting to get it started.

But taking the time to get ALL the little things done right is the only way to do it.

 

MAC'n89Blckstng

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When I rebuilt my motor, to prime it, i just took the coil wire off, built the oil pressure up to 40 pounds, then cranked it, I get great oil pressure all the time.