Laying Rubber

SRMobile · Aug 26, 2004

I know how to do it, heel-toe...

However, I'm only leaving one tread mark behind(passenger side) so to people on my left I must look real smart.

My question is why is this ? All these Mustang vids circulating around here show all the Stangs leaving two tire tracks. In another thread someone said I had an open diff. Does this mean that in all the vids people are upgrading there rear ends ?

What do I need to do in order to get both spinning ? How much would it cost ? And I guess I should go for 4.10's while the work is being done ?

chevylover · Aug 26, 2004

As far as I know I've got a stock rear and I can lay a nice pair.
I'm not to familiar with the Mustangs and their options but a locking diff. could have been an option.
I know it was on my Avalanche.

SRMobile · Aug 26, 2004

What year is your car ? I'm a 2003..

Could it be I'm being a dumb arse??

DarkFireGT · Aug 26, 2004

I've got an '03. Stock 'cept for filter...

Something definitely sounds wrong there. My tracks are always very even. Stupid question, are you turning off your traction control? Otherwise, there's gotta be something wrong there.

SRMobile · Aug 26, 2004

Yep yep, Turning off the track control..

Car runs great, its just that the few times that Ive burntout Ive only got 1 tire mark left beghind.

I know the Service Manager @ my dealer and asked him if both tires are supposed to spin, he told me that up to a certain point, then the power gets transfered to the right wheel...

So I dont know what to think, anyone else have any ideas?

I guess Ill have to try again to be sure, but its obvious the few times that ive lit them up and have had smoke come in the car... Ya look back and one tire mark.

HELP!

DarkFireGT · Aug 26, 2004

I have no idea then... this is what mine look like

Ruckus46Gt · Aug 26, 2004

i always thought that mustangs lay 2 wheels and they do if they are a 5 speed. I had some dumb guy in front of me in a auto gt with flows powerbrake it in front of me and he had the 1 wheel problem.....so i think autos lay 1

-281 2V- · Aug 26, 2004

Maybe your rear's clutch packs are worn. Does it tend to kick to one side when you lose traction?

smokin'Red35th · Aug 26, 2004

you need a rear differential rebuild. usually they can do that at the same time that you put gears in. but sounds like you have a problem with your clutches or the teeth inside your differential.

2k2fourpointsix · Aug 26, 2004

Bring that car in for service, you traction lock is not working. Be creative on how you tell them you konw its not working, they probably won't like it if you say when laying strips they rear wont lock up. But you want to get that fixed now while its under warranty.

GTn00b · Aug 26, 2004

I've got an auto and it burns em both, but when it goes to 2nd the rear end kicks out is that normal, or do I need a rear end rebuild kit?

twogts4us · Aug 26, 2004

SRMobile said:
I know how to do it, heel-toe...

Heel-toe? To 'lay rubber'? Just rev it and dump the clutch!
Do you know what heel-toe really is?
It's a method of using your right foot to brake AND blip the throttle while downshifting to try to match the engine speed to the transmission speed and therby minimizing rear to front weight transfer and drivetrain strain while maintaining good rear wheel grip.
Although it's called heel-toe, it's really more about using the ball of your foot for the brake and the right edge of your foot for the gas.

streetstang03 · Aug 26, 2004

GTn00b said:
I've got an auto and it burns em both, but when it goes to 2nd the rear end kicks out is that normal, or do I need a rear end rebuild kit?

mine is the exact same way

smokin'Red35th · Aug 27, 2004

twogts4us said:
Heel-toe? To 'lay rubber'? Just rev it and dump the clutch!
Do you know what heel-toe really is?
It's a method of using your right foot to brake AND blip the throttle while downshifting to try to match the engine speed to the transmission speed and therby minimizing rear to front weight transfer and drivetrain strain while maintaining good rear wheel grip.
Although it's called heel-toe, it's really more about using the ball of your foot for the brake and the right edge of your foot for the gas.

WHAT??????????

FriscoGT · Aug 27, 2004

The rear-end does not "lock" each side together. Power is transferred from the right to the left by a fluid/clutch, similar in principle to a torque converter. Thus, if the right breaks free and starts to spin too fast the left side may not "catch up" and also break free, leaving only one rubber strip. Only when the left side gets a good transfer of power will it spin.

On my 00 auto GT, about 80% of the time both will spin, and obviously the other 20% I only get the right. If you can never get both sides spinning you very well might have a problem.

02GTBlack · Aug 27, 2004

Whoa there is no "Fluid coupling" in the Traction lock rear end. It has a clutch pack and they can go bad or get used up. There are other things that can go wrong also. You need to get your car serviced. All GTs come with a traction lock rear end as far as I know. But there maybe an option to not have one. Better find out right away.

S.D.-Stangman · Aug 27, 2004

SRMobile said:
I know the Service Manager @ my dealer and asked him if both tires are supposed to spin, he told me that up to a certain point, then the power gets transfered to the right wheel...

So I dont know what to think, anyone else have any ideas?

Sounds to me like your service manager is an idiot. If you are doing a good clutch dump/brake stand to get em moving, they should both keep spinning till you let up.

trinity_gt · Aug 27, 2004

SRMobile said:
I know how to do it, heel-toe...

However, I'm only leaving one tread mark behind(passenger side) so to people on my left I must look real smart.

If you're in the process of going around a corner and get into it hard, you might break one tire loose. I can in my 02 GT and it's a pain in the arse.

However, if you're sitting stopped and burn out in a straight line and are leaving one tire mark then it's likely that the LSD (limited slip) or "Traction Lok" in the diff is smoked and is essentially operating as an open differential. I guess it's possible you might also have a dragging brake on the non-spinning wheel that's overcoming the torque bias in the diff but I suspect you'd notice that by sluggish driving and/or smoke emanating from the rear brake.

What do I need to do in order to get both spinning ? How much would it cost ? And I guess I should go for 4.10's while the work is being done ?

You need a functioning LSD. 4.10s would be a good thing... If you've got some extra funds, you might consider upgrading from the marginal factory Traction Lok to an Eaton, Auburn or Torsen diff carrier.

SRMobile · Aug 27, 2004

Okay I seriously hope that something ising screwed up in there THE CAR IS BRAND NEW!! 5000km's on it!!

I do rev it up, dump the clutch and get on the gas and brake at the same time..

Could it be I was too hard on the brakes while I was doing it ?

Im going to try again tonight and let you guys know..

twogts4us · Aug 27, 2004

smokin'Red35th said:
WHAT??????????

What part don't you understand? Do you really think heel-toe is a techinque to lay rubber? If you don't believe my explaination, go talk to someone who actually races cars - or, hell, just go look for it on the internet. You obviously need to be educated on what heel-toe is and apparently don't believe the info I've provided is true. My guess is you are of the younger generation, right? No offense intended.

Laying Rubber

SRMobile

Trend Micro poster child

chevylover

Member

SRMobile

Trend Micro poster child

DarkFireGT

Playing with my wife's really makes me want one.

SRMobile

Trend Micro poster child

DarkFireGT

Playing with my wife's really makes me want one.

Ruckus46Gt

Member

-281 2V-

New Member

smokin'Red35th

Member

2k2fourpointsix

New Member

GTn00b

New Member

twogts4us

streetstang03

unModerator

smokin'Red35th

Member

FriscoGT

New Member

02GTBlack

Member

S.D.-Stangman

trinity_gt

SRMobile

Trend Micro poster child

twogts4us

Similar threads

Laying Rubber

Trend Micro poster child

Member

Trend Micro poster child

Playing with my wife's really makes me want one.

Trend Micro poster child

Playing with my wife's really makes me want one.

Member

New Member

Member

New Member

New Member

unModerator

Member

New Member

Member

Trend Micro poster child

Similar threads

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency