Biggeley said:Couple of things you will need to be aware of with long tubes.
1. If you don't have a mini starter don't even think of trying to make the big ass old-style one fit. Trust me on this one. Plan to purchase some wire and various connectors as well as the starter.
2. You probably will need to re-route your o2 sensors. Peel back the loom and remove the o2 wires and oil level sensor wire all the way back to the firewall. Create a new loom for just those and run the new loom down the back of the engine. Plan on buying more loom and duct tape.
3. Plan to pull the steering shaft.
4. You will have undo the motor mounts and jack up the engine on the side you are working on. The headers might not drop right in with your brand new aftermarket motor mounts in the way. You might as well save the frustration and completely remove those prior to installing the header.
5. Don't expect them to go in perfectly the first time. You will probably run into fitment issues and clearance problems. It will probably take removal/installation a few times until you get all the proper places dinged enough (in the frame, firewall, and underbody) to clear the headers.
6. Plan to ding, scratch, scape your shiny new headers. Prepare for several cuts and scrapes. Plan on going to Church that Sunday to make up for using the Lord's name in vain so many times.
7. Expect your fiancee to be mad at you for two days because every time she came into the garage to ask how you were doing, you either snapped at her or just glared at her.
8. At some point you may need to cry, or just whine a whole lot.
So that's what you are in for. Just thought you should know. But with that said, I know that I would have not been happy with shorty headers. Just expect to not have fun with it.
BaXTeR3221 said:I have em at my house, so i can't tell for sure until they go on in May.
tunedin302 said:Did you get that blower installed? You have had that for awhile haven't you?
Xpipe said:i installed bbk's equal lenth shorties then went to longtubes and felt even more power
about prblems i have a 94 gt the went in very good with no other changes
but if ur car is lowerd it's pain in the ass over bumbs
Biggeley said:Couple of things you will need to be aware of with long tubes.
1. If you don't have a mini starter don't even think of trying to make the big ass old-style one fit. Trust me on this one. Plan to purchase some wire and various connectors as well as the starter.
Biggeley said:2. You probably will need to re-route your o2 sensors. Peel back the loom and remove the o2 wires and oil level sensor wire all the way back to the firewall. Create a new loom for just those and run the new loom down the back of the engine. Plan on buying more loom and duct tape.
Biggeley said:3. Plan to pull the steering shaft.
Biggeley said:4. You will have undo the motor mounts and jack up the engine on the side you are working on. The headers might not drop right in with your brand new aftermarket motor mounts in the way. You might as well save the frustration and completely remove those prior to installing the header.
Biggeley said:5. Don't expect them to go in perfectly the first time. You will probably run into fitment issues and clearance problems. It will probably take removal/installation a few times until you get all the proper places dinged enough (in the frame, firewall, and underbody) to clear the headers.
Biggeley said:6. Plan to ding, scratch, scape your shiny new headers. Prepare for several cuts and scrapes. Plan on going to Church that Sunday to make up for using the Lord's name in vain so many times.
7. Expect your fiancee to be mad at you for two days because every time she came into the garage to ask how you were doing, you either snapped at her or just glared at her.
8. At some point you may need to cry, or just whine a whole lot.
So that's what you are in for. Just thought you should know. But with that said, I know that I would have not been happy with shorty headers. Just expect to not have fun with it.
25thmustang said:I have a stock starter, and it fits fine. No connectors or anything on that were changed at all.
25thmustang said:You have to lengthen them, and they sell a cheap kit for it, but I didnt have to do anything in the engine compartment.
25thmustang said:Unbolted mine, didnt pull it.
25thmustang said:I only had to do this on the drivers side, but had the bellhousing out of the car, so maybe thats why the pass side slipped right in.
25thmustang said:Yes, well I have the original 1989 starter, so it isnt a mini one. The AOD might have a different Bhousing which could cause issues with the starter and Bhousing, I dont have an auto. I think I spent $10 tops for the lengthener kit, and there are enough connectors in there to make 8 O2 extensions. Get a group of uys to buy it, and spend $2 each, lol!
All in all it was a pain, but my car picked up a tremendous amount, went from 13.8 to 13.0 with LTs, prochamber and pulleys!
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