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Forced Induction Looking for 500rwhp

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Deleted member 38176

Nov 24, 2012
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I want around 500rwhp.

What I've got:
D1 Procharger
forged bottom end

Can I get there with 42lb injectors, SVT Focus pump, and a KB BAP?

What should the compression ratio be?

How much boost will I need to run to get there?
 

madspeed

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id say 60# injectors would be better as youll be maxing out the 42's
 

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im thinking the whole fuel system may need to be reworked. im not sure that a single focus pump w/ bap will be enough for 500 rwhp. i would at a minimum upgrade to 60 lb injectors, take it to the dyno and see if you run out of fuel. im almost certain your going to run out of injector w/42's. i have the kb 36 lb injectors and ran out of injector at 5900 rpm and that is around 400 rwhp.

personally, i wouldnt gamble with my motor. i currently run a focus pump w/ bap. it is sufficient for my mods.... however, if i were to go forged, i would go to a return style system. probably a cobra tank w/ fore hat and twin aeromotive stealth pumps.
 
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Well what would be the max power for the 42's and BAP on the stock GT pump?

What would be the max power for the 42's and BAP on a focus pump?

My procharger kit came with FRPP 42's and the BAP. I think I'll just run those (and maybe the focus pump) for a while and save up for a fuel system down the road.

BTW, Im going to run the MMR 5.0 stroker 1000 rotating assembly if that makes any difference....
 

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I hate you. That is all I have to say about this newly found powah.
 
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What is needed to install an 8 bolt crank into a Romeo (6 bolt) engine? Is a new flexplate required?
 

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Nightfire said:
What is needed to install an 8 bolt crank into a Romeo (6 bolt) engine? Is a new flexplate required?
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If it's the forged 8-bolt you'll need to clearance a bit of material to make way for the center counterweights. Other than that, it should be a drop-in AFAIK. Before doing so you'll want to balance the whole reciprocating assembly, of course.

Yes, you'll need a new flexplate due to the bolt pattern differences.
 
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Nov 25, 2012
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What woud be a good compression ratio for 500-600rwhp on 91 octane pump gas?
 

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Nightfire said:
What woud be a good compression ratio for 500-600rwhp on 91 octane pump gas?
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that depends on who you ask. if you have too much compression than you wont be able to make good use of boost / timing due to detonation. if you dont have enough compression, it will be a dog until the boost comes in.

if i were to build a procharged 2v with a forged bottom end, i would probably set the compression somewhere around 9.5:1 and run 15 or so psi on the street. With that being said, I would also be running h/c/i as well with the setup. if you want to see 500 rwhp or more, you are going to need cams at a minimum. see MHS 500 rwhp on a budget article.

the future goal for my car is to run a forged stroker shortblock 9.5:1 with trick flow heads, stage 3+ cams, and port match my lil 2.1's lower intake mani to the heads. 10% overdrive crank pulley w/ a thimble sized pulley on the kb. i will probably also manufacture a sheetmetal inlet for the 2.1 than can utilize a huge oval throttlebody and jlt ram air cai w/ 90mm maf. that combo should be good for around 600 rwhp.
 
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Would I be able to run 15-18psi on 91 with a 9.5 CR or would a low 9 be a better idea? Im trying to decide between a mid 9 and a low 9 CR (-18cc vs. -21-22cc dish)
 
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Bizzump....
 

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you could probably get away with running the -18cc dish (as long as your set up is intercooled). the tuner may have to pull some timing tho for the 91. If I were you I would run the 9.5:1 cr... if i had problems with det, i would spray it with methanol.
 
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