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xxshadow529

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hello i am new to this forum and i wanna lower my 2004 convert gt my friend just lowered his accord yeah i no poopy honda's but it looks really good nd it was a nightmare for him he bought coil over nd then had to buy alot of camber arms nd get like 3 alignments i no i have a solid rear axle on my car can i just pop coilovers in nd it will be fine or do i need to get camber arms or should i just put H&R lowering springs in sorry if some of this doesnt make sence im just trying to find out all the steps i need to do to properly lower my car plz and thank you
 

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Sounds like for your application some H&R lowering springs are all you need. Don't bother going to coil-over unless you plan on doing some serious money spending and racing. Depending on the springs, you'll probably need caster/camber plates to help with the alignment. Although some people claim to get by without them. Welcome to the forum!
 
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if i just get the h&R springs should i get new dampers as well cause i no when you just lower the car on springs it destroys your dampers
 

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Depending on how many miles are on your car, new shocks and struts might not be a bad idea. I would say most people replace the shocks and struts if they are putting in lowering springs, because you pretty much have to take them off anyways to change the springs.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Installed H & R progressive rates on my 2000 GT, they are great. I agree with JoeDaddy and brtnstrns, you should do the shocks and struts as well as get a set of camber/castor plates. I did Tokico HP's front and rear and Maximum Motorsports camber/castor plates and the setup is sweet. Great daily driver and awesome autocrossing at the track. Allignment was a breeze and tires are wearing well and the stance is good also. Have fun, and go eat a Honda.
 

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The lower you go, the more stuff you're going to need. I wouldn't do it without more stuff than lowering springs, but that may be just me.
 

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xxshadow529 said:
hello i am new to this forum and i wanna lower my 2004 convert gt my friend just lowered his accord yeah i no poopy honda's but it looks really good nd it was a nightmare for him he bought coil over nd then had to buy alot of camber arms nd get like 3 alignments i no i have a solid rear axle on my car can i just pop coilovers in nd it will be fine or do i need to get camber arms or should i just put H&R lowering springs in sorry if some of this doesnt make sence im just trying to find out all the steps i need to do to properly lower my car plz and thank you
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Lowering springs are all you NEED. But you should seriously consider adding a good set of caster-camber plates in order to properly align the car after the drop.
 
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Do they no longer teach grammar in school?
 
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Mark Palmer

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Great thread,Thank you to all those who posted...., keep them coming : )

 

AZmustang98

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Nightfire said:
Do they no longer teach grammar in school?
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AZmustang98 said:
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Sorry, it's a pet-peeve of mine
 

AZmustang98

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I was agreeing with you. lol
 
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AZmustang98 said:
I was agreeing with you. lol
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LOL I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic
 

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I'm thinking about lowering my 2004 GT as well, these information are really great.
What you guys really prefer? eibch or h&r? I'd like to get a better handling as well, and will go with new shocks/struts and camber. What do you guys recommend?
 

AZmustang98

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Firas said:
I'm thinking about lowering my 2004 GT as well, these information are really great.
What you guys really prefer? eibch or h&r? I'd like to get a better handling as well, and will go with new shocks/struts and camber. What do you guys recommend?
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A lot of guys go with T0kikos. There are mixed reviews on ride quality. Personally, I used KYB shocks and struts all the way around. They made the car more responsive and ride good. I'm sure more guys will chime in.
 

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Good springs, cc plates and a quality alignment would get you by. Might as well change at least the struts while your at it. Hard to go wrong with tokiko on them
 

brtnstrns

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Firas said:
I'm thinking about lowering my 2004 GT as well, these information are really great.
What you guys really prefer? eibch or h&r? I'd like to get a better handling as well, and will go with new shocks/struts and camber. What do you guys recommend?
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If you can afford it, Bilstein shocks/struts. I got mine new off of ebay for a better price than almost all other places. Seems like H&R springs are more consistent in their drop from what I've seen. I've seen a few posts where people think the Eibach springs drop differently per person...this of course be due to installation error so who knows. I've got H&R super sports, bilsteins, and Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates and I think the drop is the best looking you can get and the ride quality is fine in my opinion. But some other people might feel like its harsh.

and always happy to post a pic for an example

 

03_TrueBlue_GT

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Do you think the ride will be a little less harsh if you swap in new polyurethane isolators? I saw the other thread by slayer and Im kinda worried about running Tokico Blues with H&R's now, even though that has been my plan all along now Im second guessing it...
 
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When you lower these cars as much as you do with Eibach Sportlines or H&R SS',the ride is going to be on the rougher side no matter what shocks/struts you run. That's just a fact with all cars. However, if you want to the ride be "decent" instead of just plain "ty", don't skimp on the shocks/struts......PERIOD.

Tokico's are popular because they are cheap. Are they a good shock/strut? Sure, but no where near the quality of other manufacturers, such as Bilstein. If you can't afford Bilsteins, then at least get the adjustable Tokicos and set them to the softest setting. Bottom line is that you can't expet the car to ride like a Lexus when it's lowered that much, no mtter what shocks/struts you have.
 

Bob2000GT

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Hi Again. I mentioned previously that my setup is H&R progressive rate springs, Tokico HP's, Max. Motorsports Castor/Camber plates and didn't mention before that I replaced all isolators and bushings with polyurethane, to tighten up the ride. I've included a pic this time. The H&R's are very predictable when lowering the car, you get what the specs say you will get. If you choose progressive rate springs, the everyday ride is great, not rough. When you drive the car the way that it is meant to be driven, the springs tighten up and respond well, and yes the ride can be rough, but it is supposed to be. Tokicos like the other shocks and strut combos are made for lowered cars, if you use camber/castor plates. These are a good quality mid priced product for the daily driver and autocrossing. If you are going to race your car seriously, then look at bilsteins, but if you really need the performance, go to coilovers. It sounds that you just want to lower your car to make it look the way it should and not like the family sedan ride height that Ford, for some reason, feels that they have to produce. Most everything mentioned from all the contributors in this thread will get you where you want to be. It is just a question of how much you want to spend. You can get a good look and performance without breaking the bank. Let us know what you end up with and send pics.




 
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