LS guys talking crap

Fast63 · Jan 2, 2008

dtlionsfan said:
I had an 00 Z/28 that I added an LS6 intake/comp 918 springs,pushrods,221/221/560/560 "baby" cam/shifter/4.10's/12 bolt/ASP pulley/kooks LT headers,OR y-pipe and made 415/402 RWHP and ran 11.80's at 117.9 on a drag radial.They pretty amazing.

They pretty amazing..... considering they ditched the stupid chevrolet siamese port cylinder heads for a FORD design that they elongated and called their own. LS engines are only so great because their resemble Ford small blocks now. My brother was pretty pissed when my mild 306 was just as fast as his 350 built to snot. I could also hang with stock LS1's all day, in a car I paid no more than 3k for including all the upgrades. Upgraded LS1? it would beat me, but so what? Lots of money, far more design upgrades, I mean hell, the stock heads have just as big of runners as our aftermarkets do.

mavmavv · Jan 2, 2008

Fast63 said:
What?

Someone stated before that a high mileage LS1 can be had for 5k. I could easily build a better 302/331/347 that would smoke the snot out of an LS1 for less than 5k.

Dollar to dollar, the LS1 will put out more power and Have better street manners. Im not trying to start a flamewar or anything, but thats just the truth. GM has a LOT of R&D in that motor.

The production heads flow an amazing amount right out of the box.

5spd GT · Jan 2, 2008

Fast63 said:
What?

Someone stated before that a high mileage LS1 can be had for 5k. I could easily build a better 302/331/347 that would smoke the snot out of an LS1 for less than 5k.

A stock ls1 can trap 107-109 mph average with a good driver. So doing this with 5k and cruising down the highway and pushing 30 mpg while handling better and riding smoother.

So let us say you buy a 5.0L for $2,000. This 5.0L is not going to be in the best shape, but for sake of argument, throw a decent h/c/i package. The Trickflow package cost $2,500. Now you need exhaust, maf, injectors, so this is likely to push you over $5,000 with similar straightline performance.

I have posted some of the features of an ls1 before. Maybe I will do it later...

Sicarius428 · Jan 2, 2008

I'm not sure what they are trying to prove, The LS is a superior motor. If anything they should compare it to a 351 with aluminium heads and still its 20+ years gap in technology, the LS will probably have a slight edge. They should be talking to a terminiator owner and still they will cry supercharger. Honestly the 03/04 mach 1 with DR and suspension are about the same 1/4 time as a cobra... maybe they should poke at one of those.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr54T76nAWc
Kevin

johnlovett · Jan 2, 2008

Yea they are strong a guy here has one 400hp to the tire cam and long tubes 6 speed and he can shift it , most ls1 guys have trouble speedshifting, Anyway me 302 tfs heads stock with valve job b cam cobra intake 75tb 76mass air longtubes 373s full weight on street tires he beats me buy 2 car lengths me 296 rwhp! But he wont sit down beside me on slicks as for i WILL take his money! He said your car dont run bad , I said 302 with a cam designed in 1985 im happy. Does anyone else think those cars are soft on the bottom end thats why he wont race me on slicks b/c that lil 302 is a biach out the gate!!!!!!!!!!

85_SS_302_Coupe · Jan 2, 2008

1991vert said:
this thread is retarded. how old is pushrod technology?! it's apples to oranges.

I dunno, the '08 Corvette ZR-1 is sporting something like 650hp with pushrod power....it can't be that old

cenok is family · Jan 2, 2008

johnlovett said:
Yea they are strong a guy here has one 400hp to the tire cam and long tubes 6 speed and he can shift it , most ls1 guys have trouble speedshifting, Anyway me 302 tfs heads stock with valve job b cam cobra intake 75tb 76mass air longtubes 373s full weight on street tires he beats me buy 2 car lengths me 296 rwhp! But he wont sit down beside me on slicks as for i WILL take his money! He said your car dont run bad , I said 302 with a cam designed in 1985 im happy. Does anyone else think those cars are soft on the bottom end thats why he wont race me on slicks b/c that lil 302 is a biach out the gate!!!!!!!!!!

are you a pirate?

johnlovett · Jan 2, 2008

no! but i did stay at a holiday inn express last nite

bentley429 · Jan 2, 2008

Why do people keep making these threads?

873Stang · Jan 2, 2008

if you want to make it fair game get an ls1 motor put it in and tell them its fair unlike a 350 up against a 302 ...that aint cool

bloopbloob · Jan 2, 2008

bentley429 said:
Why do people keep making these threads?

+1000000000

edit: I see my chance to show some of you how this smiley is properly used!

mavmavv · Jan 2, 2008

Here it is summed up.

A Fox Body is slow compared to a LS1 based vehicle. Get over it.

jake2582 · Jan 2, 2008

mavmavv said:
Here it is summed up.

A Fox Body is slow compared to a LS1 based vehicle. Get over it.

must throw in "stock"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
agreed X-9235676

lvboost · Jan 2, 2008

a 13.20 stock 5.0 absolutly.This guy at my track had one with just slicks just have to know how to drive

Aaron · Jan 2, 2008

I'm thirsty. Anybody feel like sending me some beer?

5spd GT · Jan 2, 2008

A moderator needs to move this to 5.0 Talk

blackstallion89 · Jan 2, 2008

5.0 vs LS1

Ive took down a few stock LS1's and LT1's since Ive been in the mustang hobby. For a good LS1 car your gonna pay anywhere from 10,000 to 18,000. Ive got maybe 7000.00 in my 5.0 and I'll race any stock LS1 with no worry. Sure its gonna require some bolt ons but it can be done with nothing major. I run low 12's through a 1/4 with a couple thousand dollars worth of parts. Ive owned a 11 second LT1 corvette and after playing around with a fox body I wouldnt trade it for the world.

Aaron · Jan 2, 2008

5spd GT said:
A moderator needs to move this to 5.0 Talk

Yea - the king of conformity (Daggar) is no longer here to move all the threads around. Guess it's up to Raggy or 5L5. One of them will move it.

86bluecobra · Jan 2, 2008

Bottom line is you can make any car go faster then the next guy. Hell I have seen bugs that I wouldn't want to race. Let guys talk smack. If you can beat them then do so and post video of you doing it.

Shrek86GT · Jan 3, 2008

Thought i would throw my two cents in. I have a 86 T-top GT with a few mods.
Like cobra intake ,24lbs inj, holly heads ,X-cam and headers with h-pipe.
before i put my gears in my boss 99 ls1 would beat me bearly after i put my gears in .
3.90 and a good set of tires he cant touch me. And he has all the bolt on you would expect . And he hates me on the bottle.

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