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nick6690

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I picked up some Mac longtubes with 1 3/4 primaries and a 2.5 collector thinking i would slip them right in but its a freakin nightmare, im so frustrated. They are hitting on the k member on both sides and its just been a PITA to install these. Are you supposed to use these headers with a tubular K member? Any advice/help is greatly appreciated.
 

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have you took out the motor mount bolt and jacked up the motor a bit? I think for long tubes the drivers side goes in from the botton, pass side from the top
 

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I have BBK L/T on my 90 fox. When i got them I was told they would drop in but after a few posts I found out I needed to pull the motor. I just jacked it up about 3" and they went in fine well after i took apart the steering linkage.
 

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i jacked up the motor and took the steering shaft off but the main problem is where it hits the k member. are these headers supposed to be for a tubular k member?
 

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I wish I lived at Summits door step... Okay, done fantasizing now.

I had a set with the stock k-member but I laid them in with the heads off while doing a gasket change from too much boost. I know you don't want to go through all that mess. I would pull a motor mount and work on that side while jacking it up, should give you some room, may even have to pull the steering shaft?

I hope you get it going.
 

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wow, I took a long time typing, I started when there were no responses. =)
 

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If you can get iether side in even with it jacked up I would check your part numbers you might have the wrong headers. When i put mine in the passanger side went right in with out jacking it up. I only had to lift it for the drivers side.
 

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Here are the instructions on your headers, maybe it will help some:

http://www.macperformance.com/store/PDF/TF7134 Instructions.pdf

I didn't see anything about made for tubular k-member. If you had the AOD headers, it should still fit?
 

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And I thought it was only the newer Mustangs that forced us to jack the motor up...never knew this, so I guess I won't be buying headers for my son's new 92 5.0 vert. Are shorties a problem too or just the long tubes?
 

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sounds to me like the motor mounts are bad and that why your headers are hitting the k memeber. have seen the problem a couple times i will say the easiest install i have ever done with long tubes was with a tubular k but you dont have to have one to clear them
 

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K guys so this one is off topic but maybe someone knows the answer to this question. I have a 86 gt with 95 heads and was thinking about getting some long tubes. Only thing is are the heads the same angle on the 95 as they are on the 86?
 

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i have the headers in place and everything i just cant get them to bolt up to the heads straight without them hitting the k member. i bought them off craigslist and the guy said he ran them on his fox for years without a problem but i cant seem to get them to line up right on mine.
 

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twogts4us said:
And I thought it was only the newer Mustangs that forced us to jack the motor up...never knew this, so I guess I won't be buying headers for my son's new 92 5.0 vert. Are shorties a problem too or just the long tubes?
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shorties, at least my equal length ones, go in super easy
 

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sorry nick wish i could help i know its iritating but i do wish you luck and if you figure out what the problem is please post
 
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boy, this sounds alot like installing windsor headers on a 5.0! did you get them new? they didnt get mispacked by some chance did they? if you bought them used, they could have been for a windsor.
 

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twogts4us said:
Are shorties a problem too or just the long tubes?
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The shorties were relatively easy to install, if my memory serves me correctly, the hardest part was getting to a few of the header bolts with the new shorties, other than that, it was an easy install. Just remember to check and re tighten the header bolts after a few days of driving the car.
 

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I have BBk longtubes, the driver side goes in no problems at all, but the passenger side the engine has to be lifted a little bit then it will slide right in. I do both sides from the top.
 

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ok i finally got them in today. i had to bolt them up with the motor jacked up but it was still a PITA and they still hit the k member. im definately getting bbk's next time i buy headers.
 

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Glad you got it! I have BBK's (shorty, equal) and love em.
 

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I have heard nothing but bad things about MAC headers. BBK all the way here.
BTW if the headers continue to rest on the K member vibrations and movement during operation will eventually wear a hole in them.
 
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