CManT1914 said:...Well I don't know a whole lot about the modular motors, but here goes. The 99/01 Cobra's were supposed to put out 305 and 315 hp respectively. But they were over-rated...
BullittStangV8 said:You can easily mod a GT to make more power then Mach's or Cobras
COBRA90GT said:Let's clarify...
The 99's were the ones down on horsepower & subsequently received "the horsepower fix" from FoMoCo to bring them back up to par. You can read more info about the '99 fix at TXSnakeCharmer's site: http://www.shane.roberts.net/cobra.htm
"Fix" page: http://www.shane.roberts.net/techman1.htm
The great majority of the '01s were "right" from the factory, with the exception of a very small few that suffered from pinging (not a big story as the '99s since not too many experienced this problem).
The 99 and the 01 was rated at 320hp & 317tq from the factory. A fixed 99 and a healthy 01 will both make roughly the same power, with some minor deviations (expected). Multiply 320 and 317 by .85 to get the "standard" rwhp/rwtq numbers you would expect (takes 15% drivetrain losses into account). They typically see 270-275rwhp/268-272rwtq range (bonestock).
Ok, with all of that being said, how do you compare all 3? Well, that point is debatable but it seems like the 03/04 Cobra trumps the 03/04 Mach I, which in turn trumps the 99/01 Cobra.
Yes, the Mach I *could* be ranked above the 03/04 Cobra if you are talking dragstrip only in stock trim but everyone knows that a modded 03/04 Cobra has TONS more potential and is probably the "better" starting platform of the 3 aforementioned mustangs if you plan on racing.
If you do want to race an 03/04 cobra at the dragstrip, you should swap out the IRS for a solid axle. Wheel hop is a PITA for many 99/01 & 03/04 cobra owners at the strip. The nice thing about the Mach I is that is does come with a solid axle so wheel hop is something you really don't have to worry about.
Lastly, let's take power modifications into consideration. The added power from a new pulley, CAI, exhaust, (and proper tune) frees up gobs more horsepower for the 03/04 cobras. Freeing up that kind of power in a 99/01 cobra or 03/04 Mach I is simply not possible. There is lots of room to work with the new 03/04 cobras, especially since they already have forged internals.
Just my .02
CManT1914 said:Thanks for clearing that up, but he never asked about the 03/04 Cobra. I still think the Mach would take the Cobras, due to their 1) solid axle 2) more low-end power 3) lighter weight.
Sick96Stang said:I'm sorry there is no way the Mach 1 can compete with an 03/04 cobra on the drag strip. I've seen 03/04 cobras run 12.6-12.7 bone stock at the track, I've never seen a Mach 1 do that. Also the 03/04 cobras like was said earlier have alot more potential to be fast.
Sick96Stang said:I'm sorry there is no way the Mach 1 can compete with an 03/04 cobra on the drag strip. I've seen 03/04 cobras run 12.6-12.7 bone stock at the track, I've never seen a Mach 1 do that. Also the 03/04 cobras like was said earlier have alot more potential to be fast. I've heard the 03/04 cobras are underrated as well and dyno as high as 360 rwhp stock. Not including the 03/04 cobras I would take #1 Mach 1, #2 Pre 03 Cobra, #3 GT. It really just depends on what you want to get out of the car though and how much you want to spend.
RedBullitt said:how does an 04 or 03 mach one compare to the non supercharged cobras? engine specs? speed, handling, style, etc. Then where does the gt fit in with its 2 valve?
thanks for any input
JonJon said:03/04 Cobra > Mach 1 > 99/01 Cobra > GT
CManT1914 said:Yea that's nice, but you forgot one thing. We AREN'T TALKING ABOUT 03/04 COBRAS!!! He asked specifically about 99/01 Cobras, which I believe the Mach can take. Of COURSE the Mach can't take an 03/04 Cobra, it's freakin supercharged and under-rated at 390 hp and 390 ft/lbs of torque. And I thought I was bad at not paying attention to threads.
Cobra90GT said:Yes, the Mach I *could* be ranked above the 03/04 Cobra if you are talking dragstrip only in stock trim
Sick96Stang said:Ok before you go running your mouth maybe you should pay attention. I wasent saying anything about the original statement I was responding to what he said.
CManT1914 said:I still think the Mach would take the Cobras, due to their 1) solid axle 2) more low-end power 3) lighter weight.
Sick96Stang said:I read that and figured you were including 03/04 cobras in there and agreeing with the dude before that said the Mach 1 could take an 03/04 cobra on the drag strip. If you werent trying to get in a piss match then how come you responded back with such a sarcastic smart ass response?
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