More power with synthetic oil?

I dont think you get more power (only in theory due to less friction) but I think it helps engine life. Plus its so pretty to look at when pouring! You can tell is finer. Just my .02.

I agree it will make your engine last longer.

you save money by going longer without a oil change. Now for more power you can be sure when you reduce friction you gain power that's what Ford did when they went to roller cams and went through the assy parts to reduce friction to find added HP. My car on Moble 1 gets 1 mpg more when I use it so it's more efficent....now is the 2 or 3 rwhp it makes enough to tell on the butt on meter? NO........

Funny some people will spend several 100's of dollars for 5 rwhp but won't use syn oil something that they have to change anyway

I did dyno after switching oil to Mobil 1.. there was a 7 HP difference on the dyno sheet.. Now I'm supercharged so dont expect to feel the difference on an NA car, but I did with mine.. definately noticed a difference.

ttown said:

you save money by going longer without a oil change. Now for more power you can be sure when you reduce friction you gain power that's what Ford did when they went to roller cams and went through the assy parts to reduce friction to find added HP. My car on Moble 1 gets 1 mpg more when I use it so it's more efficent....now is the 2 or 3 rwhp it makes enough to tell on the butt on meter? NO........

Funny some people will spend several 100's of dollars for 5 rwhp but won't use syn oil something that they have to change anyway

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Just for the record, syn oil should be changed as often as reg oil. Oil turns black because of carbon deposits,not because it breaks down.These carbon deposits will accumulate in your oil, regardless of syn or not. Tiny traces of carbon are left in the cylinder after each fire. This in turn is washed off and accumulates in the oil,turning the oil black, this is what wears bearings, cylinder walls etc.So dispite the fact that syn oil does not break down as fast as reg oil, it should still be change at the same intervals.

CanadaStang said:

Just for the record, syn oil should be changed as often as reg oil. Oil turns black because of carbon deposits,not because it breaks down.These carbon deposits will accumulate in your oil, regardless of syn or not. Tiny traces of carbon are left in the cylinder after each fire. This in turn is washed off and accumulates in the oil,turning the oil black, this is what wears bearings, cylinder walls etc.So dispite the fact that syn oil does not break down as fast as reg oil, it should still be change at the same intervals.

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tell that to the Amsoil dealers on this board. i usually go 5k between changes on Mobil 1. however with Amsoil, there are cases of people going 300k+ miles with regular filter changes.

I started using syntehetic i don't think i got more power but i felt that there was less friction on the motor so it wanted to rev a little faster. I there was a def. difference I also started using it for protection cause i started runnin some nitrous

CTGrey02 said:

I did dyno after switching oil to Mobil 1.. there was a 7 HP difference on the dyno sheet.. Now I'm supercharged so dont expect to feel the difference on an NA car, but I did with mine.. definately noticed a difference.

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Did you get a dyno then change your oil then dyno it again all on the same day?

change it. it's worth it.

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CanadaStang said:

Just for the record, syn oil should be changed as often as reg oil. Oil turns black because of carbon deposits,not because it breaks down.These carbon deposits will accumulate in your oil, regardless of syn or not. Tiny traces of carbon are left in the cylinder after each fire. This in turn is washed off and accumulates in the oil,turning the oil black, this is what wears bearings, cylinder walls etc.So dispite the fact that syn oil does not break down as fast as reg oil, it should still be change at the same intervals.

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Just for the record....wrong. I worked for Amoco Tulsa Research for 22 years and color of oil has little to do with it's effectiveness. What is important is a filter change to catch the particles. Other factors include:

All city driving (a few miles at a time)
Very dusty conditions like a dirt road or working in an oil field.

If you drive highway you can go 10k to 12k with moblil 1 without any problems. I done 2 oil changes a year on my 25k a year travel on 2 dodge trucks and 1 1887 mustang...150k on the gt (sold), 1997 Ram 185K (sold), 1999 Ram 145k (still own) and never any engine issues. In fact they all run just like they did when I brought them new. Mobile 1 used to claim 25k or 1 year but since we have a sue happy public they don't put any mileage claim on their product now.

You don't have to worry about any carbon deposits with syn oil. That's why you hear so many people that used regular oil for years that gummed there engine up and dryed the seals out and after chaging to syn oil they had leaks. It cleans your engine out VERY good.

BTW you better change your oil ever 100 miles or so if color matters to you.

Synthetic oil has been used ever since I bought the car and will never turn back to regular oil ever! Royal purple and mobil 1 is good stuff.

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tell that to the Amsoil dealers on this board. i usually go 5k between changes on Mobil 1. however with Amsoil, there are cases of people going 300k+ miles with regular filter changes.

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We used to run Amsoil in our cars. I can't say anything bad about it. It saved our 87 Chevy 6.2l Diesel when the oil plug was pulled out by some huge brush out back. The truck ran for like 10 min. ideling before we saw a black trail leading back to the brush when we started to haul the rest of the tree that fell down.

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tell that to the Amsoil dealers on this board. i usually go 5k between changes on Mobil 1. however with Amsoil, there are cases of people going 300k+ miles with regular filter changes.

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As he stated, with proper filtration and filter changes, Amsoil has been shown in test studies to last through 300+k miles of wear and still not even be at half life. Yes, its true. When the motor fires carbon can build up in the combustion chamber and lead to premature failure. However, oils, especially synthetics like Amsoil have many detergents to keep the carbon and dirt formation broken down and free flowing in the oil until it can be filtered out by the filter. Naturally, since the filters are catching all this dirt and carbon, it will need to be changed regularly. However, if you're using a synthetic filter like the Amsoil heavy duty filters, they can out-filtrate ordinary filters and still only need to changed every 6 months or 12k miles of wear. I use a filter magnet on my setup and I've noticed that helps to reduce the amount of circulating metal shaving depostits you get from normal motor wear as well.

It should also be noted that despite how much you change your oil or what kind you use, carbon can still be depostited and build up in the combustion chamber and not just there, but in the fuel system as well. Many people have hard starts and loss of fuel mileage when the vehicle gets older and they think its the inside of the motor going bad and thats just not the case. Its because the fuel system and valves are dirty and filled with carbon. Because of this and because gasoline these days, although fitlered and cleaned at the factory, it still is filled many times with impurities I use a fuel conditioner in my gasoline at every tank. It's really not that expensive either and it helps to get great gas mileage and reduce smog emissions. I had been using Lucas upper cylinder lubricant but I use Amsoil now. Just 6oz. on the first tank and 1oz. per 10 gallons of gas every tank there after and you'll be set for a clean fuel system for the life of the vehicle. If the vehicle has a really dirty fuel system, you might want to do to back to back 6oz. treatments to start with. How good does this really work to make your gas mileage go up ? Well, before I used fuel conditioner my best gas mileage was about 17-19mpg, despite how much highway driving or in town driving I did. Now, I can get about 23-24mpg on the open highway and possibly a bit more if I tried. Good enough results for me.