I just pulled the bellhousing off the car as well as the clutch and flywheel. The pan fits without the plate between the block and housing. There is a raised part of the plate that runs right behind the pan. The pan fitment is flush with the back of the block. so I am going to cut just the raised section off the plate. The pan will cover it so I am not really worried about water getting inside or rocks or whatever could jump up in there. I moght use some skinny weather strip to seal it to the pan when I put the plate on the block just to make sure no water gets in. It sucks though that I have to do this.