Motor is being built finally!! (PICS 56k=death)

mustang50v8 · Nov 15, 2008

so today my friend and i started putting the cobra motor back together. we were not able to finish as we are unable to get the main timing chains and new oil cooler from ford until tuesday. but we now have almost a full long block and that was the goal of today. machine shop that did all of the re-finishing says that this motor really is a 302 Stroker

now for the pic's!! i will just throw them up for now. i have lots of them

clevite racing bearings

bearing uppers installed in the motor

VT Forged Stroker crank

Eagle forged connecting rods and Diamond pistons.

rotating assembly all put together

FR500 Cylinder Heads with 2003-04 cobra valvetrain

everthing put together

and the gauges i am putting in to keep a better eye on what is going on inside the beast. these will be occupying the slot below my headunit. i have a pioneer deck and the factory cd player is dong nothing. so instead of getting one of those little pockets i am putting these in that spot.

sorry about the long post and all the pictures but i am really excited to have my car back on the road and it has taken 2 long months to get to this point. i will be posting more pics as progress comes along, hopefully i will be driving my car next weekend!!

98COBRA281 · Nov 15, 2008

sweet

i think running the same main bearings, H series right?

mustang50v8 · Nov 15, 2008

98COBRA281 said:
sweet

i think running the same main bearings, H series right?

you know... i cant remember at the moment. i was told they were the best you could get. but H Series does sound familliar

mustang50v8 · Nov 15, 2008

oh and for those that are wondering why the rebuild is taking place...its cause the oil pump blew up

98COBRA281 · Nov 15, 2008

^ that sucks!!!

what kind of oil pump was that?

mustang50v8 · Nov 15, 2008

98COBRA281 said:
^ that sucks!!!

what kind of oil pump was that?

stock.

it has FRPP high volume now. but i think its the same as stock. there had to be a manufacturing defect in the original one.

darkside03gt · Nov 15, 2008

nice. what kind of h-beams are you running?

mustang50v8 · Nov 15, 2008

eagle h beams

stamping on them says CRS-5850-SS

i tried looking it up but couldnt find anything

LaserSVT · Nov 15, 2008

Yeah, the stock oil pump is the Achilies (sp?) of the Teksid engines
The FRPP or billet ones are the right choice I have read many stories of boosted and built Cobras blowing up because of the stock oil pump. Damn gears are plastic, dumb Ford

So I must have missed all the other stuff. Are you going forced induction? And what are the benefits of the FR500 over 03/04 Cobra heads?
Like the gauge spot too
My favorite gauge mount is the one like I have with the gauges by the cluster. Gives it a factory look

BurningRubber · Nov 15, 2008

Great pics, bet you cant wait to get it back in the car.

CobraRed_96_GT · Nov 16, 2008

God that's a pretty crank. I'm fighting with myself whether to go forged crank or not. Looks good man! What power are you aiming for?

mustang50v8 · Nov 16, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
What power are you aiming for?

well.....i would be lying if i said i wouldnt be disappointed if i didnt make 03 cobra power.....but in reality im not sure its possible.

keep in mind the heads and intake are not ported. i just didnt have the money for it. or headers. headers are an easy thing (i would go for shorties, yes i know they dont make as much power, no im not putting more money into the exhaust.)

guess my power: im going to guess 370

Teksid Block, bored .20 over
VT forged stroker crank
FR500 Heads (not ported) w/04 cobra valvetrain
Diamond forged dished pistons
Eagle forged H-beams
10.5:1 compression ratio
stock exhaust manifolds
2.5" full exhaust from headers back
bassani x-pipe (no cats)
flowmaster super 44's

i have an xcal2 for when i take it to get tuned. for a 93 octane tune

mustang50v8 · Nov 16, 2008

LaserSVT said:
The FRPP or billet ones are the right choice I have read many stories of boosted and built Cobras blowing up because of the stock oil pump. Damn gears are plastic, dumb Ford

So I must have missed all the other stuff. Are you going forced induction? And what are the benefits of the FR500 over 03/04 Cobra heads?
Like the gauge spot too
My favorite gauge mount is the one like I have with the gauges by the cluster. Gives it a factory look

the stock oil pump gears are not plastic, they are metal. the ones i pictured are of the stock pump.

no im not going FI but i will be running higher compression. at some point in time i do want to run FI but that will be a long time down the road.

the advantage of the FR500 heads is the flow when compared to N/A aplications. cobra heads are better for FI. the cobra heads flow better than fr500 when they are ported, but if you port the fr500's they flow the most of any other 4.6 head. (b heads, c-heads, 03-04 cobra heads)

CobraRed_96_GT · Nov 16, 2008

So are you at least going to spray it? No need for forged internals if you're only looking in the 370 range. Should be a kick ass N/A app though.

LaserSVT · Nov 16, 2008

mustang50v8 said:
the stock oil pump gears are not plastic, they are metal. the ones i pictured are of the stock pump.

no im not going FI but i will be running higher compression. at some point in time i do want to run FI but that will be a long time down the road.

the advantage of the FR500 heads is the flow when compared to N/A aplications. cobra heads are better for FI. the cobra heads flow better than fr500 when they are ported, but if you port the fr500's they flow the most of any other 4.6 head. (b heads, c-heads, 03-04 cobra heads)

Thats cool as hell mang! My bad on the gears though, I thought I had read on here they were plastic. I DO know they always fail (well to often anyway) so that a billet pump is always a good upgrade when rebuilding
I believe you will make around 400 whith the right tune
Did you see the Telsid 5.0 N/A they built on Horse Power for Alterd E-Go? Pretty much everything you have only ported heads and that Hillborn style intake and they were making 491 hp N/A With a stock style intake and no head porting I would bet you see 400+ hp
Also from all the DOHC stuff I have read over the years (I am OBSESSED with 4.6 DOHC) it seems the 96 Cobra cams are the second best cams for N/A power. Second only to the Sean Highland custom cams but they are $1000 cheaper
There are several stock displacment DOHC modulars making 390-430 hp on a Teksid block, 03/04 heads, 99/01 intake and 96 cams

Another question though. I thought the highest flowing heads were the 96-98 Cobra heads. That they can flow ALOT more then 99+ heads. The problem is they dont have as high of a port velocity as the latter heads

mustang50v8 · Nov 16, 2008

LaserSVT said:
Another question though. I thought the highest flowing heads were the 96-98 Cobra heads. That they can flow ALOT more then 99+ heads. The problem is they dont have as high of a port velocity as the latter heads

you know....maybe you are right..i cant remember anymore, some of those specs may have been drunken away

all i know is that they are better than the 99-01 and 03-04 heads when all are stock and non-ported.

CobraRed_96_GT: no i am not spraying it at the moment. i know there is no need for forged internals at the moment, but that is how i got the car. at some point down the road i will probably do all of that. but now that the engine is underway...the next plan will be to beef up the IRS with better halfshafts and poly bushings. again...that wont happen for a while but its my next goal. that and headers

LaserSVT · Nov 16, 2008

IRS and 4v? You do have a GT right? If so and you have done all that then I take away almost every bad thing I will ever say to you

BurningRubber · Nov 16, 2008

LaserSVT said:
IRS and 4v? You do have a GT right? If so and you have done all that then I take away almost every bad thing I will ever say to you

Nope, he's got a Cobra now.

LaserSVT · Nov 16, 2008

Well Cobra=Cool so I guess hes alright anyway

BurningRubber · Nov 16, 2008

LaserSVT said:
Well Cobra=Cool so I guess hes alright anyway

Darn right Cobra = Cool.

I wish I had a Cobra...

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