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ChldsPlay

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Are mustangs not selling very well right now? I know at the local dealership they've had about 12-15 sitting on their lot for about 3-4 weeks now. Most are 05's, converts and such, but there are a few 06's. The exact same ones, all there, everyday. I haven't checked the stickers on them, so maybe they're jacking up the price, but it just seems odd to not be selling any of them.
 

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Lots of plain jane v6s not selling. Especially verts. At LEAST 20 on the lot sittin and getting dusty.
 
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Only thing on lots within 40 miles of my house are V6 Convert Auto. Wow that car has all 3 things I don't want. LOL
 

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I'd rather have a V6 convertable, than a V6 Coupe, but im happier with my GT Coupe
 

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theres been a few gt's sittin on the lot near me, no mark-up, but not selling.....
 

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Big motivational problem right now is gas prices. The average person that sees a new Mustang, either V6 or V8, thinks "race car" or "performance car" and that to them equals bad gas mileage. People don't believe me when I tell them that I average 23-24 MPG in my GT (driving like my grandma, anyway ).
 

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As I posted on another thread, Mustang sales have been sliding the last 3 months. Although April & May Mustang sales were the best in the last 20 years, June, July & Aug sales were below the monthly production rate.

Around me the situation is the same. There are V6 Mustangs stacked up on dealer lots, especially verts.

GTs are still pretty rare around here. Most dealers do not have any GTs on their lots. One dealer had an 05 GT vert on his lot for a few weeks before it was sold. Another just got in 2 - 06 GT coupes.

Also as I said before, Ford screwed up on the V6 - V8 build mix. Ford started out building the same % V6s as they had been selling over the last 5 years. But they forgot that for the last 5 years many V6 sales were to fleet / rental customers, but with the 05 came out Ford cut the # of Mustangs that they sold to fleet / rental customers.. The retail sales mix is much higher for V8s.
 

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I think if you buy a stang gt,gas prices should be no concern.......
I just don't like the way the V6s look maybe its me,and the pony package looks pretty bad but then again it still could be me lol.JohnnyT
 
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Pliskin said:
Lots of plain jane V6s not selling. Especially verts. At LEAST 20 on the lot sittin and getting dusty.
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Yep, that's a fact ... too many convertibles.

Ford needs to re-think their unit allocations

Make More GT's, V6 Ponies and how about another SVT model?

I've heard rumors that they are considering a BOSS Mustang

Retro'd with a Shaker Hood and the 5.4 engine

* we can ONLY hope ~
 
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All the ones on the lots are converts and high priced ponies.
Best way to find one is search the dealer inventories online. Thats how I found mine.
 
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Maybe another reason why many GTs and V6s and still sitting on the lot is because a lot of people who want one, already ordered their's from the dealer and are still waiting and waiting and waiting.. (like me, going on 2 1/2 months and I know it's not long compared to others but still long time with no car)
 
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351CJ said:
...Also as I said before, Ford screwed up on the V6 - V8 build mix. Ford started out building the same % V6s as they had been selling over the last 5 years. But they forgot that for the last 5 years many V6 sales were to fleet / rental customers, but with the 05 came out Ford cut the # of Mustangs that they sold to fleet / rental customers.. The retail sales mix is much higher for V8s.
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I agree. But, since V6 autos seem plentiful, it puzzles me that Ford dealers and fleet/rental customers haven't gotten back to business as usual. Actually, I'm a bit concerned, because I believe solid V6 sales help justify/support further development of the V8 & special editions. And if V6 sales seriously lag, I foresee V8 price increases... after all, a more expensive V8 makes the V6 look like a bigger bargain.
 

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IMO Ford screwed up by producing a V6 model. What is the necessity of a car with less horsepower, a girly sound, and a sissy look when you can have what you want for a few thousand bucks extra. Really and truly, who went to the lot going "whoa i can't wait to get one of those new V6 mustangs!!!!" I know i didn't!!! Produce the right car at the right price and demand will increase. WTF come on Ford. Of course it does make my GT more valuable for resale. Just a thought.
 
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I went to my local dealer web site and called them and now they have one '06 V8 Vert with Auto. I asked a stupid question to the sells person on the phone, why not get the V8s ordered with manual and base sticker. His answer was the usual sells person who does not know anything about the performance market. People want the Vert and Auto and then I asked how come then they have 15 of them on the lot and they have been on the lot since June but the Saleen they had at $48k lasted only 2 days. Silence, I always get Silence. lol
 
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I talked to my dealer yesterday and he said ford cannot make the GT's fast enough. He also said the automatics are easier to get. Basically if your looking for a auto V6 or V8 your in luck. And that dealer allocation is stupid. It should be first come first serve no matter where you live. Not good for buisness when they cant even keep up with demand. Let's load up the lots with V6 autos when most of the demand is V8 manual. I assume that is the way they think. In 05 they couldnt fill all there orders and now in 06 it looks like the same scenario. I wont keep my hopes up. I ordered in June and propably wont get til june 2006.
 

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If your lucky if yea get it by then.....
if you are paying sticker i would cancel your order and look somewhere else and i am sure you can get what you want if you look a bit.But if you are at X-Plan you should stick with your dealer and hope he gets you the car you want....
I wanted Manual (But got auto instead}
I wanted Black[but got silver instead}
wanted shacker500 (but got shacker1000 instead)
got all the upgrades that i wanted.....

Am I happy,,,Yes I am. think silver is nice and the Auto is nice(manual would be nicer I would think}
But by getting the car at Invoice and saved $2500 i am very happy.....
I always bought cars from the lots and never ordered one(this was my first and last}
So shop around and i am sure you might not get the color you want but i am sure you will get everything else that you are asking for.....JohnnyT
 
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I know what you mean, I thought about that option but im getting mine on the x-plan so i think i will stick it out for now. where i am from, you basically have to park you car as of nov 1st because of the road salt. What's probably going to happen is during the winter i will have to get it brought to my garage with a flatbed truck. After that i will sit in it and think of the summer ahead. I look at it now as a very nice christmas gift to myself.
 

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I agree. But, since V6 autos seem plentiful, it puzzles me that Ford dealers and fleet/rental customers haven't gotten back to business as usual. Actually, I'm a bit concerned, because I believe solid V6 sales help justify/support further development of the V8 & special editions. And if V6 sales seriously lag, I foresee V8 price increases... after all, a more expensive V8 makes the V6 look like a bigger bargain.
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Ford made a decision to reduce fleet / rental sales of ALL its vehicles. This is because those fleet / rental sales are essentually at ZERO profit. The past mentality was "We'll sell all those cars to fleet & rental companies at ZERO profit, because it will pump up the volume which will reduce the cost on our retail sales, so we'll make more profit on retail sales." However more recent bean counter calculations said that the fleet / rental sales were really sold at a loss.

You are correct in that the V6 Mustang has been essential to get Mustang sales volume high enough to not only justify keeping the Mustang in production, but to finally get the first all new Mustang in 25 years, the 05.
 

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Stang066 said:
I talked to my dealer yesterday and he said ford cannot make the GT's fast enough. He also said the automatics are easier to get.
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It has been reported that Tremec cannot manufacture as many T-3650 manual trannies as Ford wants. However there should not be a problem getting V6 Mustangs with a manual trannie as they use the T5.
 

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dmaxstang said:
IMO Ford screwed up by producing a V6 model. What is the necessity of a car with less horsepower, a girly sound, and a sissy look when you can have what you want for a few thousand bucks extra. Really and truly, who went to the lot going "whoa i can't wait to get one of those new V6 mustangs!!!!" I know i didn't!!! Produce the right car at the right price and demand will increase. WTF come on Ford. Of course it does make my GT more valuable for resale. Just a thought.
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Try leaving putting your male machoism aside for a few seconds.
Simple fact, without the V6 Mustang there would not be a V8 Mustang today as Ford would have discontinued the Mustang years ago.

Over the last 10 years V6 sales have been 68% and V8s 32%.

In an ideal world, yes I'd like for there to be only V8 Mustangs as it would make the Mustang have more prestige and be more exclusive. However that is not a reasonable expectation given the nature of the auto business.
 
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