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red95gtconvert

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I have been having alot of trouble with may car here lately as mentioned in my previous threads, well today I put the new distributor in and now the car is shaking like crazy and when I go to time it with the timing light the timing marks on the balancer aren't even close. If I turn the dizzy with the spout out to 10* BTDC the car totaly starts to crap out. It almost feels like a spun balancer but the kicker is the one that is on it is a month old, it has no run out and looks fine.


Any ideas?

 

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A tooth off when putting the dizzy in?

 

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Man I've tried everything, the car will light off instantly where the timing is right now but the whole car shakes like crazy when you rev it up also the timing marks seem way off on the harmonic balancer compared to how the car is running.

 

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does it shake in neutral

 

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gcomfx.com said:

A tooth off when putting the dizzy in?

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Exactly right!

That's two votes for a tooth off when installing the new dizzy!

You can tell whether this is the problem by looking at the position the distributor is in when you have the timing set. If it is rotated a good bit CW or CCW from its usual position, you have it installed at least a tooth off.

Since you say the car fires right up, you probably have it way too far advanced. If it was way too retarded, the engine wouldn't fire up normally.

Gonna have to take it out and restab it back in until you get the timing marks back in view again.

 

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Thanks so far, I've restabbed the dizzy probably 30 times now

 

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red95gtconvert said:

Thanks so far, I've restabbed the dizzy probably 30 times now

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I don't know your experience level with this so excuse me if I am telling you something you already know.

The only way to get the dizzy in right is to start with cylinder #1 at Top Dead Center on the power stroke (as opposed to TDC on the exhaust stroke).

Then you've got to get the #1 spark plug wire on the dizzy lined up so that when it is stabbed in it ends up at the proper advance BTC. The thing will turn almost a quarter of a turn when stabbing it in since it rides the curve on the drive gear on the way down.

Come on you other guys who have done this more recently, lets get red95gtconvert back on the road!!!

 

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Thanks again everyone I have the car running but it is shaking like crazy in the interior, the body , everywhere, I am wondering if that Autozone balancer took a dump on me?

 

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You can also try putting the SPOUT connector back in and turning the dizzy by hand to see if you can get a decent idle. This is the common sense method (who cares what a timing light or balancer say, especially if that method isnt working). I've had issue getting some cold-engine, no-SPOUT stangs to run.

Once you get it running decently and up to temp, now is the time to time it without the SPOUT connector.

You might not be on compression. You can feel a puff of air on exhaust. To check this requires a restab.

Good luck.

 

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HISSIN50 said:

You can also try putting the SPOUT connector back in and turning the dizzy by hand to see if you can get a decent idle. This is the common sense method (who cares what a timing light or balancer say, especially if that method isnt working). I've had issue getting some cold-engine, no-SPOUT stangs to run.

Once you get it running decently and up to temp, now is the time to time it without the SPOUT connector.

You might not be on compression. You can feel a puff of air on exhaust. To check this requires a restab.

Good luck.

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I cared what the timing light and balancer said when the whole car felt like it was going to shake apart lol. The car is running great again with the new balancer on it