New owner, Just bought an 84 5.0, Need a bit of advice on carbs...

[jamesfoster]

Hey guys, I'm new to stangs. I just sold my SRT-4 (too much money every month) and ended up picking up an 84 5.0 for $800 from a friends towing/salvage yard. It got impounded and the previous owner couldn't afford to get it out of the impound, so it sat for 3 months and I just bought it on a lein sale. I think I got a damn good deal.

The car is pretty beat, but seems to run alright. It needs a bit of body work, the interior was disgusting so I stripped it. There is a bunch of aftermarket wiring in the car and it's really ghetto, but I'm good with electronics so I'm gonna rewire everything. I already replaced the battery, the alt isn't charging it so a new 100 amp is on it's way, and the carb leaks gas, so I figure I'll just get a new high performance carb. I'm gonna flush all the fluids and replace all the plugs and wires next week also.

This is my first carbureted car and I don't know too much about them. I've done a bit of searching and talked to a few people and I think what I want/need is a 650 cfm 4 barrel double pumper, I like Edelbrock and think that's what I wanna go with, of course Holley would be good too. My plans are to get the car running maybe low 12's all motor. I'm gonna convert is to an electric fan also when I replace the alternator next week.

So what I need is help from carburated mustang experts! Does that sound like a good carb for what I want? Any advice or things I should know? I just need guidance with this thing, I really don't know anything about it or any older cars for that matter. Thanks in advance guys...

-James

oh p.s. the car is a 5 speed

 

[srothfuss]

For a street car, your thinking is correct. A smaller carb in the 600 - 650 CFM range will get the job done. It will give you great throttle response and still carry you up to 6,000 RPM where the car will stop making power.

In the past, I have used Eddelbrock's 600CFM 4 barrel w/ Vacuum secondaries and had great results + great gas milage.

Welcome to the boards!

 

[jamesfoster]

Thanks man, I was looking around on ebay and summit, and I found this Edelbrockmanifold/Holly 600 cfm carb combo for $410, looks like a pretty good deal I think...
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM-CEDL002KD

Then I found a ton of carbs on ebay...
Remanufactured Edelbrock 600 cfm for $210
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=8024267909&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

The same thing but new for $260
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=8023339118&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

And here's a remanfacutured thunder avs 650 cfm for $220...I really like this one. I think i should get it..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-...ewItemQQcategoryZ33550QQitemZ8025067499QQrdZ1

I don't know what to go with!

 

[bill302]

check this one out i've heard some good things about these-what do ya'll think
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stor...eId=10001&categoryId=12623&searchItemId=50601

 

[srothfuss]

Thanks man, I was looking around on ebay and summit, and I found this Edelbrockmanifold/Holly 600 cfm carb combo for $410, looks like a pretty good deal I think...
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM-CEDL002KD

Then I found a ton of carbs on ebay...
Remanufactured Edelbrock 600 cfm for $210
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=8024267909&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

The same thing but new for $260
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=8023339118&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

And here's a remanfacutured thunder avs 650 cfm for $220...I really like this one. I think i should get it..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-...ewItemQQcategoryZ33550QQitemZ8025067499QQrdZ1

I don't know what to go with!

It's hard to make up your mind... Welcome to Mustang heaven, so many choices, so many different paths to take. It's great!

I have only personal experience with Holley (bad experience but not my car) and Edelbrock (good experience on my car) so what I type will be biased....

BTW: I heard that if you have the $$ a Demon carb is the way to go now. They weren't around when I was running on the streets with a carb so that is just what I hear.

I like to buy new parts. Used parts can be rebuilt, but they were returned for a reason. Most of the time, it's because they leaked or didn't seal right. Sometimes it's because the floats were bad.... But if you buy used, it's harder to replace so make sure you ask what the return / exchange policy is. I liked my out of the box Edelbrock carb because it drove great on the street and didn't require a lot of tuning to get it running right. Plus, the carb handled backfires a hole lot better than my friends Holley did.

IF you plan to swap intakes, look for a company called Weiand. They make a great intake called 'Stealth.' It is one of the best pieces for a street car. The other companies make good products also, but I think the Stealth intake is the best.

 

[65ShelbyClone]

Resist the temptation to get a bigger carb than you need. 650 is way too much for a stock 302, even 600 is on the large side. 650 is probably too much even for my 302.


I agree on the Weiand Stealth. It is one of the best dual plane intakes on the market and won't put anyone in the poorhouse. My X-Celerator is a single plane and a bit agressive.

 

[jamesfoster]

Awesome guys, I'll definatly look into the weiand stealth intake, and I think I'll be going with a new 600 cfm edelbrock carb.

 

[bill302]

Resist the temptation to get a bigger carb than you need. 650 is way too much for a stock 302, even 600 is on the large side. 650 is probably too much even for my 302.


I agree on the Weiand Stealth. It is one of the best dual plane intakes on the market and won't put anyone in the poorhouse. My X-Celerator is a single plane and a bit agressive.

well here another carb a little smaller than the previous thread i sent. like i said earlier i have heard alot of good things about these carbs. (demon) if i ever need a carb. in the near future demon will be my brand.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stor...eId=10001&categoryId=12623&searchItemId=97559

 

[Synned]

I just wanna say congrats on going from import > domestic! You think boost on a 4 banger is fun...

 

[srothfuss]

if i ever need a carb. in the near future demon will be my brand.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stor...eId=10001&categoryId=12623&searchItemId=97559

That would be a nice snappy carb.... Too bad there isn't a 550CFM unit made by Demon. I'm planning to do a basic EFI build for the first time so I won't be needing a carb anytime soon. If you do get one be sure to report on what it's like.

 

[65ShelbyClone]

I just wanna say congrats on going from import > domestic! You think boost on a 4 banger is fun...

Eh, for the most part, a Neon isnt an import....

 

[bill302]

That would be a nice snappy carb.... Too bad there isn't a 550CFM unit made by Demon. I'm planning to do a basic EFI build for the first time so I won't be needing a carb anytime soon. If you do get one be sure to report on what it's like.

will do. i'm thinking about building a 351 and using a speed demon on it in the near future. i've worked on old school chevy's all my life until a year ago when my son and his friends talked me into buying a mustang. in a sence these ford mustangs are a different animal.(parts just don't interchange) so i'll be asking info. from all ya'll when i start about best parts and deals.