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I have the chance to get a pair of NPI heads for virtually nothing. In the interests of economics and being able to do the job slow time I am now thinking about obtaining these and do a port/polish job on them. Rather than go the PI route for the heads.

My question is: how much can be safely milled off to up the compression a bit? wouldn't want it to be extreme.

Plus - if anybody knows of a workshop in the Atlanta area who could mill the heads please let me know.

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just have the heads milled to resurface them, the compression jump for 10tho is .25.
Porting these heads are from what I understand a very tricky buisness it is easy to do way more harm than good by removing material that should not be removed.
I am very handy with a dremel and quite an accomplished mechanic but after reaserching the subject I decided to purchase a pair of ported npi heads and was glad I did.
Consistant porting from chamber to chamber is a royal pita and an exercise in precision repeated 8 times.
Expect to spend in excess of 60 hrs grinding away then without a flow bench you really are working in the dark.
I wish you luck and happiness.

Dwayne
 

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i was looking at getting a set of npi heads P&P and this is what gearbanger101 told me to look at...I talked to Jim and he gave me a lot of info shoot him an email and he will get back to you.

Gearbanger 101 said:
Take a quick trip over to www.tccoa.com. Plenty of MN12 T-Bird/Cougar guys over there are making good use out of the Non-PI castings that most Mustangers give away for next to nothing. Nearly all of them swear by the porting done by Renagade Racing in Michigan. You can contact Jim directly here at fastford@peoplepc.com and he'll answer any questions as far as flow and cost that you might have.

The pictures and flow figures for his heads, speak for themselves....






These were a set done for Johnny Langton over at the tccoa. He went for the whole shooting match with these ones with full portwork with throat enlargement (not just a CNC job),milling of the head surface to insure a clean face,comp valve job,high-lift springs,titanium retainers/locks,teardown/cleanup. These particular heads flowed The flow over 200cfm at .500" lift,and 220ish cfm at .600" lift on the intake and just over 190cfm on the exhaust side. That beind said, they ran about $1,500, but you get what you pay for.

Another member 96 GoldBird also had a set done there that weren't quite as heavily worked and his turned out as follows....









You can can different levels of head work done of which flow and cost are directly related. These are average flow figures for your basic Renagade ported NPI head.

PNP NPI
Lift..............Intake................Exhaust
.100"--------- 67----------------62
.200"---------120----------------97
.300----------165---------------137
.400----------193---------------152
.500----------210---------------164
.600----------222---------------175

For reference sake, this is what a set of PI, Ported PI’s and stock FRPP castings flow for comparison.

PI

Lift..............Intake................Exhaust
.100"--------- N/A----------------N/A
.200"---------115----------------103
.300----------148----------------128
.400----------166----------------143
.500----------175----------------156
.600---------- N/A--------------- N/A

Ported PI
Lift..............Intake................Exhaust
.100"--------- 64----------------52
.200"---------116----------------94
.300----------162---------------130
.400----------192---------------160
.500----------213---------------178
.600----------217---------------185

FRPP

Lift..............Intake................Exhaust
.100"--------- N/A----------------N/A
.200"---------142----------------100
.300----------181----------------131
.400----------196----------------150
.500----------213----------------150
.600---------- N/A--------------- N/A



Had one of my heads not be screwed when I bought my car, this is probably the route I would have chose. But as it sits, I got a set of PI castings at a fabulous deal and couldn't pass them up. I have no doubt though, that a properly ported set of NPI heads would performe every bit as well as my ported PI heads. As it sits, your intake is a perfect match to the Non-PI castings, so this is just one more alternative for you to take, over the FRPP castings.
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Thanks for the Info Guys.
 

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Dope 97GT said:
i was looking at getting a set of npi heads P&P and this is what gearbanger101 told me to look at...I talked to Jim and he gave me a lot of info shoot him an email and he will get back to you.
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Don't listen to that tool....he's got no idea what he's talking about!!!
 

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Don't listen to that tool....he's got no idea what he's talking about!!!
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:SNSign: I heard the same thing
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
Don't listen to that tool....he's got no idea what he's talking about!!!
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your the one who told me about him
 

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I was talking about this guy...http://forums.stangnet.com/member.php?u=33262 not Jim.
 

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oh ...no doubt
 
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